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    <p>Hi Peter,</p>
    <p>Thanks for your reply.</p>
    <p>So Python works in MacOS 10.13 and 10.14? Do we have an idea if
      10.11 and 10.12 are still in use a lot? If not, we could probably
      skip this and do the other two things.</p>
    <p>I have no idea who could help setting up the Mojave Server. The
      rest of our infrastructure runs on Hetzner and OSGeo hardware -
      there are no MacOS machines available at these hosters. So it
      would be a new thing added to the QGIS.ORG infrastructure.<br>
    </p>
    <p>I assume that the dropbox thing should be the easiest part. We
      already have Dropbox set up for some PSC files. Regarding the
      certificate: can we use the OSGeo certificates?<br>
    </p>
    <p>Also - do we have an idea who would maintain the thing, once it
      is set up? We can include it in the 2020 budget, if we can find
      out how much work it will be to maintain ... So we can help fund
      the packaging, but we need a responsible person who can do it -
      and I am afraid the current PSC can't take that responsibility.<br>
    </p>
    <p>The PSC people who know best about the infrastructure are Richard
      and Jürgen - so I'd like to hear their comments about moving the
      MacOS packaging over the QGIS.ORG.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Greetings,</p>
    <p>Andreas<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 20.02.19 um 16:14 schrieb Peter
      Petrik:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">Hi, 
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            <div>thank you and let me add my estimates</div>
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            <div><span
id="gmail-m_8438515260622197199gmail-docs-internal-guid-d206292a-7fff-9a4f-2138-12898ec61b68"><font
                  color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap">- Lack of Python support for macOS 10.11 and 10.12
This is very highly uncertain task since I got no response from python comunity (</span></font></span><a
                href="https://bugs.python.org/issue31601"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://bugs.python.org/issue31601</a>)
              and I will need to do some tests if I can somehow work
              around it. My preference is to have 1 day for
              investigation to come up with the solution/workaround or
              at least understand the scope of the issue. </div>
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            <div><span><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap">- Unable to transfer of the infrastructure and automatic builds under QGIS.org</span></font></span><span
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Assuming we have working Mojave server with remote desktop access, certificate and dropbox ready, it would take a day to finish the documentation of the package and another day to install the packager to the new server. </span></font></span></div>
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            <div><span><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap">- from Tim: </span></font></span>Ability
              to add python packages (maybe adding another python path
              to directory in the user’s current profile path<br>
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            <div>This is trivial change for few minutes.</div>
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            <div>Kind regards,</div>
            <div>Peter</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 2:54
          PM Andreas Neumann <<a href="mailto:a.neumann@carto.net"
            moz-do-not-send="true">a.neumann@carto.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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            <p>Hi Saber,</p>
            <p>There was discussion to help fund the remaining "severe"
              issues you have around the MacOS builds.</p>
            <p>Can you provide us estimates on how much funds are needed
              to finish the following three items (skipping the GRASS
              issues for now - can be handled later):</p>
            <p><span
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                  color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap">- Lack of Python support for macOS 10.11 and 10.12
- Unable to transfer of the infrastructure and automatic builds under QGIS.org</span></font></span><span
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- from Tim: </span></font></span>Ability to add python packages (maybe
              adding another python path to directory in the user’s
              current profile path</p>
            <p>?</p>
            <p>With respect to additional small donations I got: this
              adds up to approx 100-200 € earmarked towards MacOS. I can
              forward this to Lutra, however, if the PSC decides, we
              might also fund more, so you are able to finish the above
              three items.</p>
            <p>With respect to Tim's crash:</p>
            <p>- Getting a crash when trying to move dock widgets around
              (in current LTR build)</p>
            <div>Is there a ticket? If yes, this can be handled during
              the normal bug fixing cycles. We just treat MacOS like all
              the other platforms. Nothing special about it.</div>
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            <div>Greetings,</div>
            <div>Andreas<br>
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              20.02.19 um 13:11 schrieb Saber Razmjooei:<br>
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Following our earlier email about QGIS packages for macOS, we ran a crowdfunding campaign. Unfortunately, we did not raise enough fund to carry out the work we had intended.

We had to reduce the scope of our work. Below are the known issues/limitations: 

- Lack of Python support for macOS 10.11 and 10.12
- Unable to transfer of the infrastructure and automatic builds under QGIS.org
- GRASS support in the Processing toolbox: most of the modules should work. But GRASS 7.6 is not fully compatible with Python 3.x and hence some of the algorithms might fail. This will be fixed after GRASS 7.8 release.

For more details, see here:
<a href="https://www.lutraconsulting.co.uk/blog/2019/02/19/qgis-for-macos-update/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.lutraconsulting.co.uk/blog/2019/02/19/qgis-for-macos-update/</a></span></font></p>
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If you’d like to publish the packages, we will need the server details where you’d like us to upload the binaries.

If the build infrastructure should be moved under QGIS.org, we will need QGIS (OSGeo) Apple Developers Certificate, macOS Mojave Server with right to install XCode and related packages and funds to clean, document and deploy packaging code to the official server.

Kind regards
Saber
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at
                  07:10, Larry Shaffer <<a
                    href="mailto:larrys@dakotacarto.com" target="_blank"
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                          <div>Hi Nyall, et al.,</div>
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                      <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 3:16 PM
                        Nyall Dawson <<a
                          href="mailto:nyall.dawson@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nyall.dawson@gmail.com</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
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                        Fri, 14 Dec 2018 at 07:42, Tim Sutton <<a
                          href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">tim@kartoza.com</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
                        ><br>
                        > Hi<br>
                        ><br>
                        > Ah you are right - thanks! I see the QGIS
                        group widgets have an issue with tehtext staying
                        black in dark mode whilst native Qt widgets
                        correctly show their text in white.<br>
                        <br>
                        It's this line:<br>
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href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/app/qgisappstylesheet.cpp#L130"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/app/qgisappstylesheet.cpp#L130</a><br>
                        <br>
                        I suspect ALL of that custom group box styling
                        should be removed.<br>
                        Trawling through the git history it's over 6
                        years old, and I strongly<br>
                        suspect that the original styling issues it was
                        designed to workaround<br>
                        are no longer a problem (and that the custom
                        styling is causing more<br>
                        issues now than it is fixing)<br>
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                      <div>Indeed. That effort was to bridge issues with
                        different platforms, in an attempt to make
                        things look similar. It is no doubt antiquated
                        by now.</div>
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                      <div>Regards,</div>
                      <div><br>
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                      Larry Shaffer<br>
                      Dakota Cartography<br>
                      Black Hills, South Dakota<br>
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                        Nyall<br>
                        <br>
                        ><br>
                        > Regards<br>
                        ><br>
                        > Tim<br>
                        ><br>
                        > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 5:29 PM Denis
                        Rouzaud <<a
                          href="mailto:denis.rouzaud@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">denis.rouzaud@gmail.com</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
                        >><br>
                        >> Hi Tim,<br>
                        >><br>
                        >> Are you sure it's the QGIS night
                        mapping theme and not the new look of Qt for
                        Dark Theme?<br>
                        >><br>
                        >> Cheers,<br>
                        >> Denis<br>
                        >><br>
                        >> Le jeu. 13 déc. 2018 à 11:14, Tim
                        Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">tim@kartoza.com</a>>
                        a écrit :<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Hi<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Tested with 3.4.2 from last night -
                        still stuck in night mapping mode :-(<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Regards<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Tim<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> On 13 Dec 2018, at 10:31, Tim
                        Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">tim@kartoza.com</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Hi<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Brilliant thanks - downloading now!<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Regards<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Tim<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> On 13 Dec 2018, at 09:16, Saber
                        Razmjooei <<a
                          href="mailto:saber.razmjooei@lutraconsulting.co.uk"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">saber.razmjooei@lutraconsulting.co.uk</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Hi Tim,<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Both 3.4.2 and master are now built
                        with Qt 5.12. Feel free to give them a try and
                        let us know if you have any other issues.<br>
                        >>> <a
                          href="https://lutraconsulting.github.io/qgis-mac-packager/"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://lutraconsulting.github.io/qgis-mac-packager/</a><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Cheers<br>
                        >>> Saber<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 19:24, Tim
                        Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">tim@kartoza.com</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
                        >>>><br>
                        >>>> Cool, thanks!<br>
                        >>>><br>
                        >>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 5:34 PM
                        Peter Petrik <<a
                          href="mailto:peter.petrik@lutraconsulting.co.uk"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">peter.petrik@lutraconsulting.co.uk</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
                        >>>>><br>
                        >>>>> qt 5.12 is on my list too:)
                        But both of these are rather small issues with
                        < 1/2 day to solve.<br>
                        >>>>><br>
                        >>>>> P.<br>
                        >>>>><br>
                        >>>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at
                        3:14 PM Denis Rouzaud <<a
                          href="mailto:denis.rouzaud@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">denis.rouzaud@gmail.com</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
                        >>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>> Hi all,<br>
                        >>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>> I would propose not to
                        offer multiple installer. The situation is
                        already complex enough. We should at least
                        clearly promote one as the default one.<br>
                        >>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>> Regarding the night
                        mapping theme, it is a very short time issue
                        (QGIS is unusable in default theme under Mac OS
                        with Dark Theme with Qt < 5.12).<br>
                        >>>>>> I have just updated to
                        Qt 5.12, I am automatically back to default
                        theme and it looks much better!<br>
                        >>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>> Cheers,<br>
                        >>>>>> Denis<br>
                        >>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>> Le mar. 11 déc. 2018 à
                        09:18, Tim Sutton <<a
                          href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">tim@kartoza.com</a>>
                        a écrit :<br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>> Hi<br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>> On 11 Dec 2018, at
                        09:42, Saber Razmjooei <<a
                          href="mailto:saber.razmjooei@lutraconsulting.co.uk"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">saber.razmjooei@lutraconsulting.co.uk</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>> Dear PSC,<br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>> From the meeting
                        notes [1], it seems the motion for the PSC to
                        absorb the cost (Point 2 in my email) has been
                        accepted.<br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>> Could you clarify:<br>
                        >>>>>>> 1- The PSC is not
                        funding the initial work (Point 1). If so, we'd
                        like to run a crowd-funding campaign. Any
                        promotion from QGIS.org is highly appreciated.<br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>> 2- From 3.6
                        release, the packages generated from the above
                        packaging process will be used under the
                        official download page. This is for our
                        resourcing and crowd-funding purposes, so that
                        we can have everything in place before 3.6
                        release.<br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>> Just on this, can I
                        propose we put both your and William’s packages
                        there for the time being? There are some
                        technical differences between the packaging
                        approaches that mean that some users may seek
                        out specifically Williams or Lutra’s packages.
                        My understanding from William is that some of
                        these can be resolved while others cannot
                        easily. For example you cannot install pip
                        packages into the QGIS code signed bundle.
                        Currently with the Lutra packages I am still
                        locked into night mapping theme which I need to
                        file a ticket about still :-P We could
                        collaboratively provide some test with the
                        download outlining which installer is
                        appropriate for which user type.<br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>> Regards<br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>> Tim<br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>> ---<br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>> Tim Sutton<br>
                        >>>>>>> <a
                          href="mailto:tim@qgis.org" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">tim@qgis.org</a><br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>>
                        _______________________________________________<br>
                        >>>>>>> Qgis-psc mailing
                        list<br>
                        >>>>>>> <a
                          href="mailto:Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                        >>>>>>> <a
                          href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a><br>
                        >>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>> --<br>
                        >>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>> Denis Rouzaud<br>
                        >>>>>> <a
                          href="mailto:denis@opengis.ch" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">denis@opengis.ch</a><br>
                        >>>>>> +41 76 370 21 22<br>
                        >>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>><br>
                        >>>>>>
                        _______________________________________________<br>
                        >>>>>> Qgis-psc mailing list<br>
                        >>>>>> <a
                          href="mailto:Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                        >>>>>> <a
                          href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a><br>
                        >>>><br>
                        >>>><br>
                        >>>><br>
                        >>>> --<br>
                        >>>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
                        >>>><br>
                        >>>> Tim Sutton<br>
                        >>>> Visit <a
                          href="http://kartoza.com" rel="noreferrer"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://kartoza.com</a>
                        to find out about open source:<br>
                        >>>>  * Desktop GIS programming
                        services<br>
                        >>>>  * Geospatial web development<br>
                        >>>> * GIS Training<br>
                        >>>> * Consulting Services<br>
                        >>>> Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux
                        on #qgis at <a href="http://freenode.net"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">freenode.net</a><br>
                        >>>> Tim is a member of the QGIS
                        Project Steering Committee<br>
                        >>>>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
                        >>>> Kartoza is a merger between
                        Linfiniti and Afrispatial<br>
                        >>>>
                        _______________________________________________<br>
                        >>>> Qgis-psc mailing list<br>
                        >>>> <a
                          href="mailto:Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                        >>>> <a
                          href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> --<br>
                        >>> Saber Razmjooei<br>
                        >>> <a
                          href="http://www.lutraconsulting.co.uk"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">www.lutraconsulting.co.uk</a><br>
                        >>> +44 (0)7568 129733<br>
                        >>>
                        _______________________________________________<br>
                        >>> Qgis-psc mailing list<br>
                        >>> <a
                          href="mailto:Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                        >>> <a
                          href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> —<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> <KartozaNewLogoThumbnail.jpg><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Tim Sutton<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Co-founder: Kartoza<br>
                        >>> Ex Project chair: QGIS.org<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Visit <a href="http://kartoza.com"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">http://kartoza.com</a>
                        to find out about open source:<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Desktop GIS programming services<br>
                        >>> Geospatial web development<br>
                        >>> GIS Training<br>
                        >>> Consulting Services<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Skype: timlinux<br>
                        >>> IRC: timlinux on #qgis at <a
                          href="http://freenode.net" rel="noreferrer"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">freenode.net</a><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>>
                        _______________________________________________<br>
                        >>> Qgis-psc mailing list<br>
                        >>> <a
                          href="mailto:Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                        >>> <a
                          href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> —<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Tim Sutton<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Co-founder: Kartoza<br>
                        >>> Ex Project chair: QGIS.org<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Visit <a href="http://kartoza.com"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">http://kartoza.com</a>
                        to find out about open source:<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Desktop GIS programming services<br>
                        >>> Geospatial web development<br>
                        >>> GIS Training<br>
                        >>> Consulting Services<br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>> Skype: timlinux<br>
                        >>> IRC: timlinux on #qgis at <a
                          href="http://freenode.net" rel="noreferrer"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">freenode.net</a><br>
                        >>><br>
                        >>>
                        _______________________________________________<br>
                        >>> Qgis-psc mailing list<br>
                        >>> <a
                          href="mailto:Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                        >>> <a
                          href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a><br>
                        >><br>
                        >> --<br>
                        >><br>
                        >> Denis Rouzaud<br>
                        >> <a href="mailto:denis@opengis.ch"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">denis@opengis.ch</a><br>
                        >> +41 76 370 21 22<br>
                        >><br>
                        >><br>
                        ><br>
                        ><br>
                        > --<br>
                        >
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
                        ><br>
                        > Tim Sutton<br>
                        > Visit <a href="http://kartoza.com"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">http://kartoza.com</a>
                        to find out about open source:<br>
                        >  * Desktop GIS programming services<br>
                        >  * Geospatial web development<br>
                        > * GIS Training<br>
                        > * Consulting Services<br>
                        > Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at <a
                          href="http://freenode.net" rel="noreferrer"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">freenode.net</a><br>
                        > Tim is a member of the QGIS Project
                        Steering Committee<br>
                        >
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
                        > Kartoza is a merger between Linfiniti and
                        Afrispatial<br>
                        >
                        _______________________________________________<br>
                        > Qgis-psc mailing list<br>
                        > <a href="mailto:Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                        > <a
                          href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a><br>
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                        <a href="mailto:Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org"
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                          href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a></blockquote>
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                  <a href="mailto:Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
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                    href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
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