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    <p>Hi Saber,</p>
    <p>There was discussion to help fund the remaining "severe" issues
      you have around the MacOS builds.</p>
    <p>Can you provide us estimates on how much funds are needed to
      finish the following three items (skipping the GRASS issues for
      now - can be handled later):</p>
    <p><span
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          color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap">- Lack of Python support for macOS 10.11 and 10.12
- Unable to transfer of the infrastructure and automatic builds under QGIS.org</span></font></span><span
id="gmail-docs-internal-guid-d206292a-7fff-9a4f-2138-12898ec61b68"><font
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- from Tim: </span></font></span>Ability to add python packages (maybe
      adding another python path to directory in the user’s current
      profile path</p>
    <p>?</p>
    <p>With respect to additional small donations I got: this adds up to
      approx 100-200 € earmarked towards MacOS. I can forward this to
      Lutra, however, if the PSC decides, we might also fund more, so
      you are able to finish the above three items.</p>
    <p>With respect to Tim's crash:</p>
    <p>- Getting a crash when trying to move dock widgets around (in
      current LTR build)</p>
    <div class="">Is there a ticket? If yes, this can be handled during
      the normal bug fixing cycles. We just treat MacOS like all the
      other platforms. Nothing special about it.</div>
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    <div class="">Greetings,</div>
    <div class="">Andreas<br class="">
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 20.02.19 um 13:11 schrieb Saber
      Razmjooei:<br>
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Following our earlier email about QGIS packages for macOS, we ran a crowdfunding campaign. Unfortunately, we did not raise enough fund to carry out the work we had intended.

We had to reduce the scope of our work. Below are the known issues/limitations: 

- Lack of Python support for macOS 10.11 and 10.12
- Unable to transfer of the infrastructure and automatic builds under QGIS.org
- GRASS support in the Processing toolbox: most of the modules should work. But GRASS 7.6 is not fully compatible with Python 3.x and hence some of the algorithms might fail. This will be fixed after GRASS 7.8 release.

For more details, see here:
<a href="https://www.lutraconsulting.co.uk/blog/2019/02/19/qgis-for-macos-update/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.lutraconsulting.co.uk/blog/2019/02/19/qgis-for-macos-update/</a></span></font></p>
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If you’d like to publish the packages, we will need the server details where you’d like us to upload the binaries.

If the build infrastructure should be moved under QGIS.org, we will need QGIS (OSGeo) Apple Developers Certificate, macOS Mojave Server with right to install XCode and related packages and funds to clean, document and deploy packaging code to the official server.

Kind regards
Saber
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 07:10,
          Larry Shaffer <<a href="mailto:larrys@dakotacarto.com"
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                  <div>Hi Nyall, et al.,</div>
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              <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 3:16 PM Nyall
                Dawson <<a href="mailto:nyall.dawson@gmail.com"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nyall.dawson@gmail.com</a>>
                wrote:<br>
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                rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Fri, 14 Dec 2018
                at 07:42, Tim Sutton <<a
                  href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">tim@kartoza.com</a>> wrote:<br>
                ><br>
                > Hi<br>
                ><br>
                > Ah you are right - thanks! I see the QGIS group
                widgets have an issue with tehtext staying black in dark
                mode whilst native Qt widgets correctly show their text
                in white.<br>
                <br>
                It's this line:<br>
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href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/app/qgisappstylesheet.cpp#L130"
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                <br>
                I suspect ALL of that custom group box styling should be
                removed.<br>
                Trawling through the git history it's over 6 years old,
                and I strongly<br>
                suspect that the original styling issues it was designed
                to workaround<br>
                are no longer a problem (and that the custom styling is
                causing more<br>
                issues now than it is fixing)<br>
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              <div>Indeed. That effort was to bridge issues with
                different platforms, in an attempt to make things look
                similar. It is no doubt antiquated by now.</div>
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              <div>Regards,</div>
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              Larry Shaffer<br>
              Dakota Cartography<br>
              Black Hills, South Dakota<br>
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                Nyall<br>
                <br>
                ><br>
                > Regards<br>
                ><br>
                > Tim<br>
                ><br>
                > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 5:29 PM Denis Rouzaud <<a
                  href="mailto:denis.rouzaud@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">denis.rouzaud@gmail.com</a>>
                wrote:<br>
                >><br>
                >> Hi Tim,<br>
                >><br>
                >> Are you sure it's the QGIS night mapping theme
                and not the new look of Qt for Dark Theme?<br>
                >><br>
                >> Cheers,<br>
                >> Denis<br>
                >><br>
                >> Le jeu. 13 déc. 2018 à 11:14, Tim Sutton <<a
                  href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">tim@kartoza.com</a>> a écrit
                :<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Hi<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Tested with 3.4.2 from last night - still
                stuck in night mapping mode :-(<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Regards<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Tim<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> On 13 Dec 2018, at 10:31, Tim Sutton <<a
                  href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">tim@kartoza.com</a>> wrote:<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Hi<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Brilliant thanks - downloading now!<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Regards<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Tim<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> On 13 Dec 2018, at 09:16, Saber Razmjooei
                <<a
                  href="mailto:saber.razmjooei@lutraconsulting.co.uk"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">saber.razmjooei@lutraconsulting.co.uk</a>>
                wrote:<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Hi Tim,<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Both 3.4.2 and master are now built with Qt
                5.12. Feel free to give them a try and let us know if
                you have any other issues.<br>
                >>> <a
                  href="https://lutraconsulting.github.io/qgis-mac-packager/"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://lutraconsulting.github.io/qgis-mac-packager/</a><br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Cheers<br>
                >>> Saber<br>
                >>><br>
                >>><br>
                >>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 19:24, Tim Sutton
                <<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">tim@kartoza.com</a>> wrote:<br>
                >>>><br>
                >>>> Cool, thanks!<br>
                >>>><br>
                >>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 5:34 PM Peter
                Petrik <<a
                  href="mailto:peter.petrik@lutraconsulting.co.uk"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">peter.petrik@lutraconsulting.co.uk</a>>
                wrote:<br>
                >>>>><br>
                >>>>> qt 5.12 is on my list too:) But
                both of these are rather small issues with < 1/2 day
                to solve.<br>
                >>>>><br>
                >>>>> P.<br>
                >>>>><br>
                >>>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 3:14 PM
                Denis Rouzaud <<a
                  href="mailto:denis.rouzaud@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">denis.rouzaud@gmail.com</a>>
                wrote:<br>
                >>>>>><br>
                >>>>>> Hi all,<br>
                >>>>>><br>
                >>>>>> I would propose not to offer
                multiple installer. The situation is already complex
                enough. We should at least clearly promote one as the
                default one.<br>
                >>>>>><br>
                >>>>>> Regarding the night mapping
                theme, it is a very short time issue (QGIS is unusable
                in default theme under Mac OS with Dark Theme with Qt
                < 5.12).<br>
                >>>>>> I have just updated to Qt 5.12,
                I am automatically back to default theme and it looks
                much better!<br>
                >>>>>><br>
                >>>>>> Cheers,<br>
                >>>>>> Denis<br>
                >>>>>><br>
                >>>>>><br>
                >>>>>> Le mar. 11 déc. 2018 à 09:18,
                Tim Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">tim@kartoza.com</a>>
                a écrit :<br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>> Hi<br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>> On 11 Dec 2018, at 09:42,
                Saber Razmjooei <<a
                  href="mailto:saber.razmjooei@lutraconsulting.co.uk"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">saber.razmjooei@lutraconsulting.co.uk</a>>
                wrote:<br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>> Dear PSC,<br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>> From the meeting notes [1],
                it seems the motion for the PSC to absorb the cost
                (Point 2 in my email) has been accepted.<br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>> Could you clarify:<br>
                >>>>>>> 1- The PSC is not funding
                the initial work (Point 1). If so, we'd like to run a
                crowd-funding campaign. Any promotion from QGIS.org is
                highly appreciated.<br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>> 2- From 3.6 release, the
                packages generated from the above packaging process will
                be used under the official download page. This is for
                our resourcing and crowd-funding purposes, so that we
                can have everything in place before 3.6 release.<br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>> Just on this, can I propose
                we put both your and William’s packages there for the
                time being? There are some technical differences between
                the packaging approaches that mean that some users may
                seek out specifically Williams or Lutra’s packages. My
                understanding from William is that some of these can be
                resolved while others cannot easily. For example you
                cannot install pip packages into the QGIS code signed
                bundle. Currently with the Lutra packages I am still
                locked into night mapping theme which I need to file a
                ticket about still :-P We could collaboratively provide
                some test with the download outlining which installer is
                appropriate for which user type.<br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>> Regards<br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>> Tim<br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>> ---<br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>> Tim Sutton<br>
                >>>>>>> <a
                  href="mailto:tim@qgis.org" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">tim@qgis.org</a><br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>>
                _______________________________________________<br>
                >>>>>>> Qgis-psc mailing list<br>
                >>>>>>> <a
                  href="mailto:Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                >>>>>>> <a
                  href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a><br>
                >>>>>><br>
                >>>>>> --<br>
                >>>>>><br>
                >>>>>> Denis Rouzaud<br>
                >>>>>> <a
                  href="mailto:denis@opengis.ch" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">denis@opengis.ch</a><br>
                >>>>>> +41 76 370 21 22<br>
                >>>>>><br>
                >>>>>><br>
                >>>>>>
                _______________________________________________<br>
                >>>>>> Qgis-psc mailing list<br>
                >>>>>> <a
                  href="mailto:Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                >>>>>> <a
                  href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a><br>
                >>>><br>
                >>>><br>
                >>>><br>
                >>>> --<br>
                >>>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
                >>>><br>
                >>>> Tim Sutton<br>
                >>>> Visit <a href="http://kartoza.com"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">http://kartoza.com</a> to find
                out about open source:<br>
                >>>>  * Desktop GIS programming services<br>
                >>>>  * Geospatial web development<br>
                >>>> * GIS Training<br>
                >>>> * Consulting Services<br>
                >>>> Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis
                at <a href="http://freenode.net" rel="noreferrer"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">freenode.net</a><br>
                >>>> Tim is a member of the QGIS Project
                Steering Committee<br>
                >>>>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
                >>>> Kartoza is a merger between Linfiniti
                and Afrispatial<br>
                >>>>
                _______________________________________________<br>
                >>>> Qgis-psc mailing list<br>
                >>>> <a
                  href="mailto:Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                >>>> <a
                  href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a><br>
                >>><br>
                >>><br>
                >>><br>
                >>> --<br>
                >>> Saber Razmjooei<br>
                >>> <a href="http://www.lutraconsulting.co.uk"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">www.lutraconsulting.co.uk</a><br>
                >>> +44 (0)7568 129733<br>
                >>>
                _______________________________________________<br>
                >>> Qgis-psc mailing list<br>
                >>> <a href="mailto:Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                >>> <a
                  href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a><br>
                >>><br>
                >>><br>
                >>> —<br>
                >>><br>
                >>><br>
                >>> <KartozaNewLogoThumbnail.jpg><br>
                >>><br>
                >>><br>
                >>><br>
                >>><br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Tim Sutton<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Co-founder: Kartoza<br>
                >>> Ex Project chair: QGIS.org<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Visit <a href="http://kartoza.com"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">http://kartoza.com</a> to find
                out about open source:<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Desktop GIS programming services<br>
                >>> Geospatial web development<br>
                >>> GIS Training<br>
                >>> Consulting Services<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Skype: timlinux<br>
                >>> IRC: timlinux on #qgis at <a
                  href="http://freenode.net" rel="noreferrer"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">freenode.net</a><br>
                >>><br>
                >>>
                _______________________________________________<br>
                >>> Qgis-psc mailing list<br>
                >>> <a href="mailto:Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                >>> <a
                  href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a><br>
                >>><br>
                >>><br>
                >>> —<br>
                >>><br>
                >>><br>
                >>><br>
                >>><br>
                >>><br>
                >>><br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Tim Sutton<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Co-founder: Kartoza<br>
                >>> Ex Project chair: QGIS.org<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Visit <a href="http://kartoza.com"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">http://kartoza.com</a> to find
                out about open source:<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Desktop GIS programming services<br>
                >>> Geospatial web development<br>
                >>> GIS Training<br>
                >>> Consulting Services<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Skype: timlinux<br>
                >>> IRC: timlinux on #qgis at <a
                  href="http://freenode.net" rel="noreferrer"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">freenode.net</a><br>
                >>><br>
                >>>
                _______________________________________________<br>
                >>> Qgis-psc mailing list<br>
                >>> <a href="mailto:Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                >>> <a
                  href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a><br>
                >><br>
                >> --<br>
                >><br>
                >> Denis Rouzaud<br>
                >> <a href="mailto:denis@opengis.ch"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">denis@opengis.ch</a><br>
                >> +41 76 370 21 22<br>
                >><br>
                >><br>
                ><br>
                ><br>
                > --<br>
                >
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                ><br>
                > Tim Sutton<br>
                > Visit <a href="http://kartoza.com"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">http://kartoza.com</a> to find
                out about open source:<br>
                >  * Desktop GIS programming services<br>
                >  * Geospatial web development<br>
                > * GIS Training<br>
                > * Consulting Services<br>
                > Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at <a
                  href="http://freenode.net" rel="noreferrer"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">freenode.net</a><br>
                > Tim is a member of the QGIS Project Steering
                Committee<br>
                >
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
                > Kartoza is a merger between Linfiniti and
                Afrispatial<br>
                > _______________________________________________<br>
                > Qgis-psc mailing list<br>
                > <a href="mailto:Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                > <a
                  href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a><br>
                _______________________________________________<br>
                Qgis-psc mailing list<br>
                <a href="mailto:Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                <a
                  href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a></blockquote>
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