<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi, <div><br></div><div>thank you and let me add my estimates</div><div><br></div><div><span id="gmail-m_8438515260622197199gmail-docs-internal-guid-d206292a-7fff-9a4f-2138-12898ec61b68"><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap">- Lack of Python support for macOS 10.11 and 10.12
This is very highly uncertain task since I got no response from python comunity (</span></font></span><a href="https://bugs.python.org/issue31601">https://bugs.python.org/issue31601</a>) and I will need to do some tests if I can somehow work around it. My preference is to have 1 day for investigation to come up with the solution/workaround or at least understand the scope of the issue. </div><div><br></div><div><span><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap">- Unable to transfer of the infrastructure and automatic builds under QGIS.org</span></font></span><span id="gmail-m_8438515260622197199gmail-docs-internal-guid-d206292a-7fff-9a4f-2138-12898ec61b68"><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap">
Assuming we have working Mojave server with remote desktop access, certificate and dropbox ready, it would take a day to finish the documentation of the package and another day to install the packager to the new server. </span></font></span></div><div><span><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></span></div><div><span><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap">- from Tim: </span></font></span>Ability to add python packages (maybe adding another python path to directory in the user’s current profile path<br></div><div>This is trivial change for few minutes.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards,</div><div>Peter</div><div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 2:54 PM Andreas Neumann <<a href="mailto:a.neumann@carto.net">a.neumann@carto.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi Saber,</p>
<p>There was discussion to help fund the remaining "severe" issues
you have around the MacOS builds.</p>
<p>Can you provide us estimates on how much funds are needed to
finish the following three items (skipping the GRASS issues for
now - can be handled later):</p>
<p><span id="gmail-m_8438515260622197199gmail-docs-internal-guid-d206292a-7fff-9a4f-2138-12898ec61b68"><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap">- Lack of Python support for macOS 10.11 and 10.12
- Unable to transfer of the infrastructure and automatic builds under QGIS.org</span></font></span><span id="gmail-m_8438515260622197199gmail-docs-internal-guid-d206292a-7fff-9a4f-2138-12898ec61b68"><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap">
- from Tim: </span></font></span>Ability to add python packages (maybe
adding another python path to directory in the user’s current
profile path</p>
<p>?</p>
<p>With respect to additional small donations I got: this adds up to
approx 100-200 € earmarked towards MacOS. I can forward this to
Lutra, however, if the PSC decides, we might also fund more, so
you are able to finish the above three items.</p>
<p>With respect to Tim's crash:</p>
<p>- Getting a crash when trying to move dock widgets around (in
current LTR build)</p>
<div>Is there a ticket? If yes, this can be handled during
the normal bug fixing cycles. We just treat MacOS like all the
other platforms. Nothing special about it.</div>
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<div>Greetings,</div>
<div>Andreas<br>
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<div class="gmail-m_8438515260622197199moz-cite-prefix">Am 20.02.19 um 13:11 schrieb Saber
Razmjooei:<br>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap">Dear PSC,
Following our earlier email about QGIS packages for macOS, we ran a crowdfunding campaign. Unfortunately, we did not raise enough fund to carry out the work we had intended.
We had to reduce the scope of our work. Below are the known issues/limitations:
- Lack of Python support for macOS 10.11 and 10.12
- Unable to transfer of the infrastructure and automatic builds under QGIS.org
- GRASS support in the Processing toolbox: most of the modules should work. But GRASS 7.6 is not fully compatible with Python 3.x and hence some of the algorithms might fail. This will be fixed after GRASS 7.8 release.
For more details, see here:
<a href="https://www.lutraconsulting.co.uk/blog/2019/02/19/qgis-for-macos-update/" target="_blank">https://www.lutraconsulting.co.uk/blog/2019/02/19/qgis-for-macos-update/</a></span></font></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="https://lutraconsulting.github.io/qgis-mac-packager/" target="_blank">https://lutraconsulting.github.io/qgis-mac-packager/</a>
If you’d like to publish the packages, we will need the server details where you’d like us to upload the binaries.
If the build infrastructure should be moved under QGIS.org, we will need QGIS (OSGeo) Apple Developers Certificate, macOS Mojave Server with right to install XCode and related packages and funds to clean, document and deploy packaging code to the official server.
Kind regards
Saber
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 07:10,
Larry Shaffer <<a href="mailto:larrys@dakotacarto.com" target="_blank">larrys@dakotacarto.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 3:16 PM Nyall
Dawson <<a href="mailto:nyall.dawson@gmail.com" target="_blank">nyall.dawson@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Fri, 14 Dec 2018
at 07:42, Tim Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank">tim@kartoza.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi<br>
><br>
> Ah you are right - thanks! I see the QGIS group
widgets have an issue with tehtext staying black in dark
mode whilst native Qt widgets correctly show their text
in white.<br>
<br>
It's this line:<br>
<a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/app/qgisappstylesheet.cpp#L130" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/app/qgisappstylesheet.cpp#L130</a><br>
<br>
I suspect ALL of that custom group box styling should be
removed.<br>
Trawling through the git history it's over 6 years old,
and I strongly<br>
suspect that the original styling issues it was designed
to workaround<br>
are no longer a problem (and that the custom styling is
causing more<br>
issues now than it is fixing)<br>
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<div>Indeed. That effort was to bridge issues with
different platforms, in an attempt to make things look
similar. It is no doubt antiquated by now.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
Larry Shaffer<br>
Dakota Cartography<br>
Black Hills, South Dakota<br>
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Nyall<br>
<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
> Tim<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 5:29 PM Denis Rouzaud <<a href="mailto:denis.rouzaud@gmail.com" target="_blank">denis.rouzaud@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Tim,<br>
>><br>
>> Are you sure it's the QGIS night mapping theme
and not the new look of Qt for Dark Theme?<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> Denis<br>
>><br>
>> Le jeu. 13 déc. 2018 à 11:14, Tim Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank">tim@kartoza.com</a>> a écrit
:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hi<br>
>>><br>
>>> Tested with 3.4.2 from last night - still
stuck in night mapping mode :-(<br>
>>><br>
>>> Regards<br>
>>><br>
>>> Tim<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 13 Dec 2018, at 10:31, Tim Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank">tim@kartoza.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hi<br>
>>><br>
>>> Brilliant thanks - downloading now!<br>
>>><br>
>>> Regards<br>
>>><br>
>>> Tim<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 13 Dec 2018, at 09:16, Saber Razmjooei
<<a href="mailto:saber.razmjooei@lutraconsulting.co.uk" target="_blank">saber.razmjooei@lutraconsulting.co.uk</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hi Tim,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Both 3.4.2 and master are now built with Qt
5.12. Feel free to give them a try and let us know if
you have any other issues.<br>
>>> <a href="https://lutraconsulting.github.io/qgis-mac-packager/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lutraconsulting.github.io/qgis-mac-packager/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers<br>
>>> Saber<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 19:24, Tim Sutton
<<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank">tim@kartoza.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Cool, thanks!<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 5:34 PM Peter
Petrik <<a href="mailto:peter.petrik@lutraconsulting.co.uk" target="_blank">peter.petrik@lutraconsulting.co.uk</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> qt 5.12 is on my list too:) But
both of these are rather small issues with < 1/2 day
to solve.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> P.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 3:14 PM
Denis Rouzaud <<a href="mailto:denis.rouzaud@gmail.com" target="_blank">denis.rouzaud@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Hi all,<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> I would propose not to offer
multiple installer. The situation is already complex
enough. We should at least clearly promote one as the
default one.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Regarding the night mapping
theme, it is a very short time issue (QGIS is unusable
in default theme under Mac OS with Dark Theme with Qt
< 5.12).<br>
>>>>>> I have just updated to Qt 5.12,
I am automatically back to default theme and it looks
much better!<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Cheers,<br>
>>>>>> Denis<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Le mar. 11 déc. 2018 à 09:18,
Tim Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank">tim@kartoza.com</a>>
a écrit :<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Hi<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On 11 Dec 2018, at 09:42,
Saber Razmjooei <<a href="mailto:saber.razmjooei@lutraconsulting.co.uk" target="_blank">saber.razmjooei@lutraconsulting.co.uk</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Dear PSC,<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> From the meeting notes [1],
it seems the motion for the PSC to absorb the cost
(Point 2 in my email) has been accepted.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Could you clarify:<br>
>>>>>>> 1- The PSC is not funding
the initial work (Point 1). If so, we'd like to run a
crowd-funding campaign. Any promotion from QGIS.org is
highly appreciated.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 2- From 3.6 release, the
packages generated from the above packaging process will
be used under the official download page. This is for
our resourcing and crowd-funding purposes, so that we
can have everything in place before 3.6 release.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Just on this, can I propose
we put both your and William’s packages there for the
time being? There are some technical differences between
the packaging approaches that mean that some users may
seek out specifically Williams or Lutra’s packages. My
understanding from William is that some of these can be
resolved while others cannot easily. For example you
cannot install pip packages into the QGIS code signed
bundle. Currently with the Lutra packages I am still
locked into night mapping theme which I need to file a
ticket about still :-P We could collaboratively provide
some test with the download outlining which installer is
appropriate for which user type.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Regards<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Tim<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> ---<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Tim Sutton<br>
>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:tim@qgis.org" target="_blank">tim@qgis.org</a><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Denis Rouzaud<br>
>>>>>> <a href="mailto:denis@opengis.ch" target="_blank">denis@opengis.ch</a><br>
>>>>>> +41 76 370 21 22<br>
>>>>>><br>
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>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>>
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>>>><br>
>>>> Tim Sutton<br>
>>>> Visit <a href="http://kartoza.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://kartoza.com</a> to find
out about open source:<br>
>>>> * Desktop GIS programming services<br>
>>>> * Geospatial web development<br>
>>>> * GIS Training<br>
>>>> * Consulting Services<br>
>>>> Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis
at <a href="http://freenode.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">freenode.net</a><br>
>>>> Tim is a member of the QGIS Project
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>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Saber Razmjooei<br>
>>> <a href="http://www.lutraconsulting.co.uk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.lutraconsulting.co.uk</a><br>
>>> +44 (0)7568 129733<br>
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>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> —<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> <KartozaNewLogoThumbnail.jpg><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Tim Sutton<br>
>>><br>
>>> Co-founder: Kartoza<br>
>>> Ex Project chair: QGIS.org<br>
>>><br>
>>> Visit <a href="http://kartoza.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://kartoza.com</a> to find
out about open source:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Desktop GIS programming services<br>
>>> Geospatial web development<br>
>>> GIS Training<br>
>>> Consulting Services<br>
>>><br>
>>> Skype: timlinux<br>
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>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> —<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Tim Sutton<br>
>>><br>
>>> Co-founder: Kartoza<br>
>>> Ex Project chair: QGIS.org<br>
>>><br>
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>>><br>
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>> --<br>
>><br>
>> Denis Rouzaud<br>
>> <a href="mailto:denis@opengis.ch" target="_blank">denis@opengis.ch</a><br>
>> +41 76 370 21 22<br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
>
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><br>
> Tim Sutton<br>
> Visit <a href="http://kartoza.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://kartoza.com</a> to find
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> * Geospatial web development<br>
> * GIS Training<br>
> * Consulting Services<br>
> Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at <a href="http://freenode.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">freenode.net</a><br>
> Tim is a member of the QGIS Project Steering
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