<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Saber,</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for
focusing and being precise. Here is my personal feedback (answers inline
below in red) - being on PSC, but not representing PSC opinion:<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 11:36, Saber Razmjooei <<a href="mailto:saber.razmjooei@lutraconsulting.co.uk" target="_blank">saber.razmjooei@lutraconsulting.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>Let's
have the discussion focused on one issue as raised by the original
email. This will help making a plan and reaching a conclusion.</div><div><br></div><div><a class="gmail_plusreply" id="gmail-m_-6136279255190012237gmail-m_-7512039718008133366gmail-m_2973649606164080302gmail-plusReplyChip-3" href="mailto:qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">@qgis-psc</a> we
have moved forward based on your discussion and votes (unanimously
voted in favour of the motion) on Dec 2018 [1]. Unfortunately, our
crowdfunding did not reach its target and we could not resolve the
remaining issues. We have 3 options:<br></div><div><br></div><div>1- To handover the project as it is, which will have issues 2 and 3 from the list below.</div><div>2- To finish the work: requires extra funding from QGIS.org - see below</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)">This would be my favorite of the three options.</span><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>3- Abandon the work<br><br></div></div></blockquote><div><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)">Would be sad and a waste of resources.</span><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Our questions, which I leave with the PSC to discuss and come up with a simple Yes or No answer:</div><div><br></div><div>1-
Are you happy to cover the annual cost of macOS packaging: server
cost + certificate. Our estimate is 700 $ / year. My preference is
having QGIS certificate. But OSGeo will be fine.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)">Yes - we have the funds and should be able to cover that.</span><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>2- Will you fund the extra work to support older macOSes (10.11 and 10.12)?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)">This one I am hesitating - because Peter also said it is hard to estimate how much work it will be.</span><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>3- Will you fund the extra work to clean up the code, transfer the infrastructure and maintain the code until Jan 2020.)</div><div>(2
and 3 were in our plan but we omitted those two items because our
crowdfunding did not match the target. Our estimate for 2 and 3 is 4000
euro)</div></div></blockquote><div><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)">I am in favour of funding item 3. Item 2 only if it isn't a bottomless pit.</span><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>4- Are you willing to publish the packages on <a href="http://qgis.org/" target="_blank">qgis.org</a>?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)">yes - sure</span><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>5- Do you have a preferred time line? If yes, when would you like to have the packages ready?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)">As soon as the rest of the PSC agrees and you find the time?</span><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div>
</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 11:36, Saber Razmjooei <<a href="mailto:saber.razmjooei@lutraconsulting.co.uk">saber.razmjooei@lutraconsulting.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>Let's have the discussion focused on one issue as raised by the original email. This will help making a plan and reaching a conclusion.</div><div><br></div><div><a class="gmail_plusreply" id="gmail-m_-7512039718008133366gmail-m_2973649606164080302gmail-plusReplyChip-3" href="mailto:qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">@qgis-psc</a> we have moved forward based on your discussion and votes (unanimously voted in favour of the motion) on Dec 2018 [1]. Unfortunately, our crowdfunding did not reach its target and we could not resolve the remaining issues. We have 3 options:<br></div><div><br></div><div>1- To handover the project as it is, which will have issues 2 and 3 from the list below.</div><div>2- To finish the work: requires extra funding from QGIS.org - see below</div><div>3- Abandon the work</div><div><br></div><div>Our questions, which I leave with the PSC to discuss and come up with a simple Yes or No answer:</div><div><br></div><div>1- Are you happy to cover the annual cost of macOS packaging: server cost + certificate. Our estimate is 700 $ / year. My preference is having QGIS certificate. But OSGeo will be fine.</div><div>2- Will you fund the extra work to support older macOSes (10.11 and 10.12)?</div><div>3- Will you fund the extra work to clean up the code, transfer the infrastructure and maintain the code until Jan 2020.)</div><div>(2 and 3 were in our plan but we omitted those two items because our crowdfunding did not match the target. Our estimate for 2 and 3 is 4000 euro)</div><div>4- Are you willing to publish the packages on <a href="http://qgis.org/" target="_blank">qgis.org</a>?</div><div>5- Do you have a preferred time line? If yes, when would you like to have the packages ready?</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div><div>Saber</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TeVmd8W-vJ0NxKmrFybcAV4Sxci50WbNGyZhM5F4bZc/edit" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TeVmd8W-vJ0NxKmrFybcAV4Sxci50WbNGyZhM5F4bZc/edit</a></div><br class="gmail-m_-7512039718008133366gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 10:31, Paolo Cavallini <<a href="mailto:cavallini@faunalia.it" target="_blank">cavallini@faunalia.it</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
<br>
On 21/02/19 08:17, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote:<br>
<br>
> Sorry, I'm aware that William is still doing it. So I honestly do hope<br>
> he does not feel offended. To be honest I was missing the Kingchaos<br>
> links in our download page, but now remember he uploads it to <a href="http://qgis.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">qgis.org</a><br>
> server.<br>
<br>
I believe the whole packaging topic is a strategic issue for us. I<br>
suggest therefore to dedicate a special meeting to it during the<br>
upcoming HF.<br>
All the best.<br>
-- <br>
Paolo Cavallini - <a href="http://www.faunalia.eu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.faunalia.eu</a><br>
<a href="http://QGIS.ORG" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">QGIS.ORG</a> Chair:<br>
<a href="http://planet.qgis.org/planet/user/28/tag/qgis%20board/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://planet.qgis.org/planet/user/28/tag/qgis%20board/</a><br>
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