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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07.08.19 08:00, Matthias Kuhn wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Tim,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/6/19 11:45 PM, Tim Sutton wrote:<br>
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<div class="">Thanks for this - we did discuss this at the PSC
meeting. Can’t this simply be handled by having a changelog
for bug fix releases when we get the magic feed to changelog
thing done? Then we can simply mark what was fixed and what
was regressed and why. A job for Anita H who is maintaining
the changelog for us. <br>
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<p>There is already a category of "notable fixes" in the
changelog. We could add a "changelog" label (next to the
"feature" label) to automate listing of notable fixes in the
changelog.</p>
<p>For the regressions I would propose to handle them manually
(i.e. no magic feed) to have a good selection and wording - it's
always harder to communicate things that got worse than things
that got better.<br>
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I also think so, foremost as usually "notable fixes" outweigh
regressions.<br>
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<div class="">I think the issue is more about communication than
having black and white rules - there is always going to be
some exception that we need to figure out how to deal with.
‘Can’t fix’ is a valid issue resolution even if it is a
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<p>Fair point. Please note that in this case it wasn't marked as
resolved, but left open since the current patch is only a
bandaid.<br>
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<div class=""> We also chatted about KDAB and were mostly in
favour of that - at least it would be good to have a complete
list of upstream issues that affect QGIS that we know of and
then approach them for some indication of cost to repair.</div>
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<p>Cool!</p>
<p>There is a list in <a
href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/30930#issuecomment-518660334"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/30930#issuecomment-518660334</a>
which can be used for that.</p>
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<p>do you mean
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/30930#issuecomment-515371162">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/30930#issuecomment-515371162</a> ?</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Marco<br>
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<p>Regards<br>
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<p>Matthias<br>
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<div class="">On 6 Aug 2019, at 16:02, Matthias Kuhn <<a
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<div class="">Hi PSC,<br class="">
<br class="">
As discussed with Giovanni Manghi in [1], I'd like to
bring an issue with the attachment widget to your
attention.<br class="">
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Since QGIS 3.0 there has been an issue with the
attachment widget, that when clicking the [...] browse
button in the attribute table, QGIS has crashed. This
has been reported in [2] about 1.5 years ago.<br
class="">
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In the last months, at least 3 core developers have
spent a total of at least 10 hours trying to recover
the original browse functionality. Unfortunately
without success.<br class="">
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Finally, a pull request was created to remove the
button from the attribute table [1] and has been
merged into master (backports for 3.4 and 3.8 are
pending).<br class="">
<br class="">
There was a broad agreement that at the current point
we are not able to fix it in a reasonable timeframe,
so it's better to remove the button (which had one
sole functionality of crashing QGIS). All other
functionality of the attachment widget (outside the
attribute table) is unaffected.<br class="">
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One of the conclusions in [1] was, that it would be
good to collaborate with Qt (e.g. KDAB) for bugfixing.
Apart from this particular issue, there are a few
others for which an upstream fix is the only (or the
cleanest) solution. It would be good if we could agree
on a budget for this (e.g. 5 days of time) and get in
touch with upstream to get the ball rolling. It would
be nice if the PSC could take a decision and do the
preparation work for that (if possible pre 3.10).<br
class="">
<br class="">
On another note, it would be good to clarify on our
stance regarding priority handling. In the discussion
there was a pretty tight notion of a "no regressions
allowed, whatever the cost" policy. This binary way
this argument was used made it quite hard to decide on
the best way forward for the application. I have the
plan to try to avoid regressions wherever possible and
to make QGIS more stable at the same time. But if the
project decision is that stability shouldn't be much
of a focus before anything tagged a "regression" is
eliminated I will have to check my priorities again.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Thanks a lot<br class="">
<br class="">
Matthias<br class="">
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[1] <a
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[2] <a
href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/26948"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/26948</a><br
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auto; text-align: center;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform:
none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px;
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initial; text-decoration: none;
font-variant-ligatures: normal;
font-variant-position: normal;
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margin: 0px; line-height: normal;
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0, 0);" class=""><br class="">
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0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
auto; text-align: center;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform:
none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width:
initial; text-decoration: none;
font-variant-ligatures: normal;
font-variant-position: normal;
font-variant-numeric: normal;
font-variant-alternates: normal;
font-variant-east-asian: normal;
margin: 0px; line-height: normal;
-webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0,
0, 0);" class=""><span
style="caret-color: rgb(102,
106, 115); color: rgb(102, 106,
115); font-family: "Proxima
Nova", sans-serif;
font-size: 14px; text-align:
left; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);" class="">I'd love to
connect. </span><a
target="_blank"
class="t-quick-start-share-link"
href="https://calendly.com/timlinux" style="color: rgb(0, 162, 255);
text-decoration: none; cursor:
pointer; font-family:
"Proxima Nova",
sans-serif; font-size: 14px;
text-align: left;"
moz-do-not-send="true">Here's my
calendar link</a><span
style="caret-color: rgb(102,
106, 115); color: rgb(102, 106,
115); font-family: "Proxima
Nova", sans-serif;
font-size: 14px; text-align:
left; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255);" class=""> to make
finding time easy.</span></div>
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