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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02.05.20 11:20, Andreas Neumann
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I kind of compare our voting members with a parliament. Because
voting members are representatives of other people,</p>
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only half of the voting members represent other people<br>
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<p> it is important that these votes are public and not anonymous.
All votes of parliament members are public (at least in many
countries). In Switzerland there is a website that publishes all
votes of all parliament members: <a
href="https://www.parlament.ch/de/ratsbetrieb/abstimmungen/wer-hat-wie-abgestimmt-im-nationalrat"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.parlament.ch/de/ratsbetrieb/abstimmungen/wer-hat-wie-abgestimmt-im-nationalrat</a>
(available in german, french, italian - no english). There you
can filter by party, topic, people, etc. - it is important that
these votes are public, so one can decide which persons to
re-elect or check if the voting member voted as promised to the
people they represent.<br>
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<p>I think anonymous voting would be important if all our end
users would have a vote.</p>
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as above, half of the people are end users.<br>
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<p>Does this make sense to you?</p>
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to me both options are ok, we just need to decide. it is just a bit
weird for me being candidate and taking care of the correctness of
the votes. <br>
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<p>Even if we decided to go anonymous, this would be technically
difficult as Tim said.<br>
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<p>not really, it depends on the solution we use. With loomio we can
do anonymous voting [0] for logged in users. They have a whole
guide on how to run virtual AGM's [0]<br>
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<p>Cheers Marco<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://help.loomio.org/en/guides/virtual_agm/#5-electing-directors-and-appointing-board-members">https://help.loomio.org/en/guides/virtual_agm/#5-electing-directors-and-appointing-board-members</a></p>
<p>[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://help.loomio.org/en/guides/virtual_agm/">https://help.loomio.org/en/guides/virtual_agm/</a></p>
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<p>Andreas<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 02.05.20 um 11:10 schrieb Tim
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<div class="">For me I think everything is already transparent.
If someone wants to cross reference results we can share the
spreadsheet and we share already the methodology by which
scores are calculated. We cannot really have anonymity and
accountability at the same time (e.g. we need to be able to
check that only valid users are making votes). Although we
could do something like give voters voting tokens or other non
descriptive identifiers so that we can’t directly see who
voted for who. Otherwise we could specify that all votes cast
will be public - which is about the most transparent we could
be - maybe a nice idea? Let's discuss at the PSC meeting
rather on voting directly on this.</div>
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<div class="">On 2 May 2020, at 09:59, Paolo Cavallini
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thanks for taking care of this. Lesson learned for the
future: we need<br class="">
an electoral commission, made by non candidates which
will guarantee the<br class="">
transparency and coherence of the operation.<br
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Also, I believe we must guarantee anonymity.<br
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Please vote on this resolution.<br class="">
Cheers.<br class="">
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Il 02/05/20 10:38, Marco Bernasocchi ha scritto:<br
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi Andreas, thanks
for asking them,<br class="">
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did they resubmit?<br class="">
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it is also possible for them to directly edit their
forms if they don't<br class="">
want to resubmit, just let me know if they need help
in getting the link<br class="">
for editing their answers.<br class="">
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Ok - I will ask these three people to resubmit.<br
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+1 for resubmit if feasible.<br class="">
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On 28.04.2020 22:20, Luigi Pirelli wrote:<br
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people to resubmit"<br class="">
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Hi,<br class="">
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Our AGM voting form isn't bullet-proof.
There are three votes that<br class="">
accepted myself as treasurer, but then
again a second time as a<br class="">
regular<br class="">
PSC member.<br class="">
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Should we declare these votes as invalid or
ask those people to<br class="">
resubmit<br class="">
and so the previous record can be deleted?<br
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There might some tight results, so this can
lead to different<br class="">
outcomes<br class="">
what we decide here.<br class="">
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