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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>We can discuss it in the next meeting. But I am also reluctant,
as we didn't communicate it in advance. Not ideal. We can start
doing next year and clearly tell people about it.<br>
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<p>Andreas<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 02.05.20 um 18:11 schrieb Marco
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<p>We could do that, we need to check in the charter and previous
communications if it is not said somewhere that the votes are
anonymous. We need to be sure that we'd not break anybody's
trust by maybe changing a policy. <br>
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<p> let's discuss it Tuesday.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Marco<br>
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<div class="">Why don’t we already publish the list of voters
and their votes (with email addresses removed) somewhere e.g.
in the AGM minutes. That way all voters can confirm that their
vote was registered as intended, and members of the country
groups can confirm that their collective vote was recorded as
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<p class="">Hi,</p>
<p class="">I kind of compare our voting
members with a parliament. Because voting
members are representatives of other people,</p>
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only half of the voting members represent other
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<div class="">One could really argue about this. Our
contributor community is much larger than we have
community voting members. Also, the community
votes for their voting members to represent the
whole community. So in this sense, all voting
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<p class="">it is important that these votes
are public and not anonymous. All votes of
parliament members are public (at least in
many countries). In Switzerland there is a
website that publishes all votes of all
parliament members:<span
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in german, french, italian - no english).
There you can filter by party, topic,
people, etc. - it is important that these
votes are public, so one can decide which
persons to re-elect or check if the voting
member voted as promised to the people they
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<p class="">I think anonymous voting would be
important if all our end users would have a
vote.</p>
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<p class="">Does this make sense to you?</p>
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to me both options are ok, we just need to
decide. it is just a bit weird for me being
candidate and taking care of the correctness of
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<div class="">I agree here. As Paolo said, we could
have 2 people outside of PSC to take care about a
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<p class="">Even if we decided to go
anonymous, this would be technically
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<p class="">not really, it depends on the
solution we use. With loomio we can do
anonymous voting [0] for logged in users. They
have a whole guide on how to run virtual AGM's
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<div class="">That's good to know that a technical
solution exists, should we decide that we want
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