<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Why don’t we already publish the list of voters and their votes (with email addresses removed) somewhere e.g. in the AGM minutes. That way all voters can confirm that their vote was registered as intended, and members of the country groups can confirm that their collective vote was recorded as expected?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Tim<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 2 May 2020, at 12:51, Andreas Neumann <<a href="mailto:andreas@qgis.org" class="">andreas@qgis.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Hi Marco,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My comments are inline.<br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 2 May 2020 at 13:22, Marco Bernasocchi <<a href="mailto:marco@qgis.org" class="">marco@qgis.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=""><p class="">Hi All,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></p><div class="">On 02.05.20 11:20, Andreas Neumann wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><p class="">Hi,</p><p class="">I kind of compare our voting members with a parliament. Because voting members are representatives of other people,</p></blockquote>only half of the voting members represent other people<br class=""></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">One could really argue about this. Our contributor community is much larger than we have community voting members. Also, the community votes for their voting members to represent the whole community. So in this sense, all voting members vote on behalf of a larger community they represent.<br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><p class="">it is important that these votes are public and not anonymous. All votes of parliament members are public (at least in many countries). In Switzerland there is a website that publishes all votes of all parliament members:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.parlament.ch/de/ratsbetrieb/abstimmungen/wer-hat-wie-abgestimmt-im-nationalrat" target="_blank" class="">https://www.parlament.ch/de/ratsbetrieb/abstimmungen/wer-hat-wie-abgestimmt-im-nationalrat</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(available in german, french, italian - no english). There you can filter by party, topic, people, etc. - it is important that these votes are public, so one can decide which persons to re-elect or check if the voting member voted as promised to the people they represent.<br class=""></p></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="">I think anonymous voting would be important if all our end users would have a vote.</p></blockquote>as above, half of the people are end users.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><p class="">Does this make sense to you?</p></blockquote>to me both options are ok, we just need to decide. it is just a bit weird for me being candidate and taking care of the correctness of the votes.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I agree here. As Paolo said, we could have 2 people outside of PSC to take care about a correct voting.</div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><p class="">Even if we decided to go anonymous, this would be technically difficult as Tim said.<br class=""></p></blockquote><p class="">not really, it depends on the solution we use. With loomio we can do anonymous voting [0] for logged in users. They have a whole guide on how to run virtual AGM's [0]<br class=""></p></div></blockquote><div class="">That's good to know that a technical solution exists, should we decide that we want anonymous voting.<br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class=""> </div><div class="">Andreas<br class=""></div></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Qgis-psc mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="mailto:Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">
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