<div dir="auto">Sounds good to me. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Tim</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 2 May 2020, 17:28 Andreas Neumann, <<a href="mailto:a.neumann@carto.net">a.neumann@carto.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Hi,</p>
    <p>We can discuss it in the next meeting. But I am also reluctant,
      as we didn't communicate it in advance. Not ideal. We can start
      doing next year and clearly tell people about it.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Andreas<br>
    </p>
    <div>Am 02.05.20 um 18:11 schrieb Marco
      Bernasocchi:<br>
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      <p>We could do that, we need to check in the charter and previous
        communications if it is not said somewhere that the votes are
        anonymous. We need to be sure that we'd not break anybody's
        trust by maybe changing a policy. <br>
      </p>
      <p> let's discuss it Tuesday.</p>
      <p>Cheers</p>
      <p>Marco<br>
      </p>
      <div>On 02.05.20 17:33, Tim Sutton wrote:<br>
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        Hi
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Why don’t we already publish the list of voters
          and their votes (with email addresses removed) somewhere e.g.
          in the AGM minutes. That way all voters can confirm that their
          vote was registered as intended, and members of the country
          groups can confirm that their collective vote was recorded as
          expected?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Regards</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Tim<br>
          <div><br>
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <div>On 2 May 2020, at 12:51, Andreas Neumann
                <<a href="mailto:andreas@qgis.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">andreas@qgis.org</a>> wrote:</div>
              <br>
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                    <div>Hi Marco,</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>My comments are inline.<br>
                    </div>
                  </div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 2 May 2020
                      at 13:22, Marco Bernasocchi <<a href="mailto:marco@qgis.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">marco@qgis.org</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
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                        <p>Hi All,<span> </span><br>
                        </p>
                        <div>On 02.05.20 11:20, Andreas Neumann
                          wrote:<br>
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                          <p>Hi,</p>
                          <p>I kind of compare our voting
                            members with a parliament. Because voting
                            members are representatives of other people,</p>
                        </blockquote>
                        only half of the voting members represent other
                        people<br>
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                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>One could really argue about this. Our
                      contributor community is much larger than we have
                      community voting members. Also, the community
                      votes for their voting members to represent the
                      whole community. So in this sense, all voting
                      members vote on behalf of a larger community they
                      represent.<br>
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                    <div> </div>
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                          <p>it is important that these votes
                            are public and not anonymous. All votes of
                            parliament members are public (at least in
                            many countries). In Switzerland there is a
                            website that publishes all votes of all
                            parliament members:<span> </span><a href="https://www.parlament.ch/de/ratsbetrieb/abstimmungen/wer-hat-wie-abgestimmt-im-nationalrat" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.parlament.ch/de/ratsbetrieb/abstimmungen/wer-hat-wie-abgestimmt-im-nationalrat</a><span> </span>(available
                            in german, french, italian - no english).
                            There you can filter by party, topic,
                            people, etc. - it is important that these
                            votes are public, so one can decide which
                            persons to re-elect or check if the voting
                            member voted as promised to the people they
                            represent.<br>
                          </p>
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                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <p>I think anonymous voting would be
                            important if all our end users would have a
                            vote.</p>
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                        as above, half of the people are end users.<br>
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                          <p>Does this make sense to you?</p>
                        </blockquote>
                        to me both options are ok, we just need to
                        decide. it is just a bit weird for me being
                        candidate and taking care of the correctness of
                        the votes.<span> </span><br>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>I agree here. As Paolo said, we could 
                      have 2 people outside of PSC to take care about a
                      correct voting.</div>
                    <div> </div>
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                          <p>Even if we decided to go
                            anonymous, this would be technically
                            difficult as Tim said.<br>
                          </p>
                        </blockquote>
                        <p>not really, it depends on the
                          solution we use. With loomio we can do
                          anonymous voting [0] for logged in users. They
                          have a whole guide on how to run virtual AGM's
                          [0]<br>
                        </p>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <div>That's good to know that a technical
                      solution exists, should we decide that we want
                      anonymous voting.<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr"> </div>
                    <div>Andreas<br>
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                <div><b>Tim Sutton</b></div>
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      <pre cols="72">-- 
Marco Bernasocchi

QGIS.org Co-chair
<a href="http://berna.io" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://berna.io</a></pre>
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