<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi Marco,<div><br></div><div>I totally agree. There should be some sort of consensus and this not something happening every week/month (hopefully we get to that point soon :)) </div><div><br></div><div>Last time David  (<a href="http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Nomination-of-David-Signer-for-core-committer-td5413615.html">http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Nomination-of-David-Signer-for-core-committer-td5413615.html</a>) was nominated, it was a general consensus and not only approved by OpenGIS :)</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div><div>Saber</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 10:58, Marco Bernasocchi <<a href="mailto:marco@qgis.org">marco@qgis.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Hi Saber thanks for the quick feedback<br>
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    <div>On 14.05.20 11:40, Saber Razmjooei
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          <div>Hi Marco,</div>
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          >> Maybe we should fix a rule where the PSC has not much
          to say in this and to successfully become a new core committer
          a contributor needs to be vouched for by at least 5 (?)
          independent (not coworkers) core committers....
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          <div>With QGIS codebase getting more and more diverse and
            complex how does that work in practice? For example in
            Vincent's case, he has been primarily working on 3D and mesh
            in QGIS. Those who are probably most qualified to comment on
            his skills are his co-workers (Peter and Martin).</div>
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    <p>Fair enough, I think that the very fact that Nyall was the
      proponent for Vincent shows that it would be possible, 5 is a gut
      number, it might be 3, 5, 5 with at least 3 non coworkers, X.<br>
      The main point to me is that we have great core devs that are very
      involved with the project and are definitely better suited than
      some of us in the PSC to take such a technical decision. It is not
      like we have a new core dev candidate every week, so they know
      each other and it would not be a big amount of work for them.<br>
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    <p>My point on mentioning the coworkers is that I would not want to
      have Matthias, Denis and David being the only ones to vouch for a
      new OPENGIS.ch employee.</p>
    <p>Cheers</p>
    <p>marco<br>
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          <div>Saber</div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 14 May 2020 at
            10:21, Marco Bernasocchi <<a href="mailto:marco@qgis.org" target="_blank">marco@qgis.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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              <p>Hi Peter,</p>
              <p>sorry this went under the radar.</p>
              <p>I added him to the triage team, while a decision is
                taken for core committer.</p>
              <p>A very important point to me is that each time there is
                a new nomination for a core developer, I'm feel, that it
                is not clear how such decision should be taken by us in
                the PSC. <br>
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              <p>I don't want to cast my vote lightly, so I usually go
                and inform myself, talk to other core committers, look
                ad communication in the PRs, mailing lists and so on,
                but I still feel that my opinion is not the best to
                judge such a decision.<br>
                I'd like to have a clear and transparent way to have
                this yes or no be taken. Not all of us follow the
                details of the code developments, and even less of us
                are in the position to adequately evaluate code quality.
                I think we should be fair in this decision and it might
                be that the PSC is not the correct group of people to
                evaluate technical capabilities of committers. <br>
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              <p>Maybe we should fix a rule where the PSC has not much
                to say in this and to successfully become a new core
                committer a contributor needs to be vouched for by at
                least 5 (?) independent (not coworkers) core committers
                and no major concerns are risen? The PSC would then just
                acknowledges what the core developer community decided
                and if all is good, awards the core-committer status to
                the nominee. <br>
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              <p>I want to be very welcoming and encourage new
                committers to aspire to become core committer, but I'd
                still like the core committer "title" to be given out
                only when the developer community thinks it is really
                deserved.</p>
              <p>I'd like to get some feedback so we can discuss this in
                the next PSC meeting.<br>
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              <p>Cheers Marco<br>
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              <div>On 14.05.20 10:01, Peter Petrik wrote:<br>
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                  <div>I am wondering how was this motion settled? I
                    tried to assign Vincent the issue in the QGIS issue
                    tracker and I am unable to do so. Would it be
                    possible to give him at least some rights to the
                    qgis repository so we can assign tickets to him and
                    he can add some labels to his PRs?</div>
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                  <div>Thanks a lot!</div>
                  <div>Peter</div>
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                    at 5:29 PM Saber Razmjooei <<a href="mailto:saber.razmjooei@lutraconsulting.co.uk" target="_blank">saber.razmjooei@lutraconsulting.co.uk</a>>
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                      <div dir="ltr">Thanks Nyall for nominating
                        Vincent. Indeed, he has done some very nice work
                        on mesh and 3d.<br>
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                        <div>@PSC does this need to be voted?<br>
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                        <div>Kind regards</div>
                        <div>Saber</div>
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 18 Mar
                          2020 at 06:35, Peter Petrik <<a href="mailto:peter.petrik@lutraconsulting.co.uk" target="_blank">peter.petrik@lutraconsulting.co.uk</a>>
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                          <div dir="ltr">Hi Nyall and PSC,
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                            <div>I work with Vincent on mesh layer and
                              MDAL tasks closely and he is indeed a very
                              capable C++ developer and generally very
                              nice person. Having him on the core team
                              would be great.</div>
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                            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed,
                              Mar 18, 2020 at 7:17 AM Paolo Cavallini
                              <<a href="mailto:cavallini@faunalia.it" target="_blank">cavallini@faunalia.it</a>>
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                              <div>+1, of course.<br>
                                Thanks Nyall for raising this.<br>
                                Cheers.<br>
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                                  2020 07:14:37 CET, Nyall Dawson <<a href="mailto:nyall.dawson@gmail.com" target="_blank">nyall.dawson@gmail.com</a>>
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                                    <pre>Hi PSC,

I'd like to formally nominate Vincent Cloarec
(<a href="https://github.com/vcloarec)" target="_blank">https://github.com/vcloarec)</a> for consideration for commit rights to
the main QGIS repo.

Vincent has been doing **fantastic** work in two very specialised (yet
increasingly important) parts of QGIS: mesh layer handling and the 3d
rendering engine. His work is consistently excellent and upholds all
the code quality standards and coding guidelines set in place by the
project. We can only benefit from having him as a core member of the
QGIS coding team!

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