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<p>Hi Andreas</p>
<p>Thanks for taking this into the discussion.</p>
<p>Rest assured that no offense has been taken. I highly value the
democratic process and it's decisions!</p>
<p>It's an offer we decided to make to move a topic forward that in
our opinion would benefit the quality of QGIS and its ecosystem.<br>
</p>
<p>Looking forward to hearing from you</p>
<p>Matthias<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/6/20 5:29 PM, Andreas Neumann
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<div>Hi Matthias,</div>
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<div>Tomorrow evening is a PSC meeting. I think we should
discuss at the meeting what to do with the two proposals that
couldn't make it.<br>
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<div>I wouldn't interpret the grant proposal voting as being
"against" your proposal. With these relatively few voting
members one vote plus or minus makes a difference and
sometimes it is only a tiny bit of luck or not. This has
nothing to do with the quality of the proposal.</div>
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<div>I think neither of the proposals is "sexy" to the end
users. And the rules of the grant process made sure that
"sexy" projects (new features and such) were not eligible for
the grant process. We should also not blame the voting
members for the outcome - it is just a matter of fact that one
or two of the proposals couldn't make it. I wish we had more
funds than we had grant proposals ...<br>
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<div>It is also clear that certain proposals that only target a
"minority" of QGIS users (such as MacOS, Linux users or QGIS
server users) often have a tough time getting enough votes.</div>
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<div>Greetings,</div>
<div>Andreas<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 16:15,
Matthias Kuhn <<a href="mailto:matthias@opengis.ch"
moz-do-not-send="true">matthias@opengis.ch</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Anita, all</p>
<p>Congratulations to all the winning proposals, we have
some very good projects confirmed. Also thanks a lot for
running the grant proposal process perfectly smooth.</p>
<p>Also thanks to all the voting members for taking the time
to read up on the proposals and participate in the
democratic process.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>We have noticed that the settings registry was again not
prioritized. We are unsure, what exactly the reason was.
The other proposals were very high quality indeed. Maybe
it was not deemed important enough, maybe the conclusion
was that it would be easy to find external sponsors or
maybe it was not presented or titled "sexy" enough.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Whatever it may have been, we are convinced that it would
be very good for the QGIS codebase, plugin ecosystem and
users. It will <br>
</p>
<p> - reduce the risk for wrong usage of settings (recent
bug e.g. [1])</p>
<p> - make it easier for plugin developers to properly use
settings</p>
<p> - add semantics to settings, it opens up the way to
generate a UI for settings (the same way it's already
possible to generate UIs for processing parameters)<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>To provide this leap forward with respect to settings
management, OPENGIS.ch would like to jump in and sponsor
the missing 2.4K € to implement this proposal.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>If you would like to follow up on this, please let me
know.<br>
</p>
<p>Thank you very much</p>
<p>Matthias<br>
</p>
<p><br>
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<p>[1]
<a
href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/37520/files#diff-45bc9c8c414931bca4589d3b221f119dL543"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/37520/files#diff-45bc9c8c414931bca4589d3b221f119dL543</a><br>
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<div>On 7/5/20 4:57 PM, Anita Graser wrote:<br>
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<div>The voting period is now over. I've closed the form
and counted the votes. You find the preliminary
results at:</div>
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<div><a
href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10MAeENptW-gi8spkmR_jn0Y-_9iYakR7wtV5XdSZZ1o/edit?usp=sharing"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10MAeENptW-gi8spkmR_jn0Y-_9iYakR7wtV5XdSZZ1o/edit?usp=sharing</a></div>
<div> </div>
<div>As it stands now, the 8 top-ranked proposals can
be funded within the 40k grant budget. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Could I ask you to please cross-check the results
before we announce them.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Anita</div>
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<div style="margin:0px 0px 10px"><b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag,
20. Juni 2020 um 16:18 Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> "Anita Graser" <a
href="mailto:anitagraser@gmx.at"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><anitagraser@gmx.at></a></div>
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<p>The call for voting has been sent out now.
The deadline is on Sunday, July 5th 2020.</p>
<p>Please get in touch if you are a voting
member and haven't received the invitation.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Anita</p>
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<div>On 19.06.2020 18:01, Marco Bernasocchi
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<p>Thanks a lot Denis and Anita for the great
work!</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Marco</p>
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I agree - thanks a lot for your work,
Denis!</p>
<p>It helps to get a good summary and
present it a bit better.</p>
<p>Andreas</p>
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<p>Thank you Denis!</p>
<p>I think this is an excellent
overview of the proposals.</p>
<p>My goal is to send the call for
voting out tomorrow evening if there
are no arguments against it.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Anita</p>
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<div>On 19.06.2020 13:48, Denis
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<div>Hi Anita,
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<div>Here is a first draft of a
one page summary of the grants
to be voted on.</div>
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href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aiolvIpEGhBZ-iLhZl7cbUP1gPQx1-W83ecijpzNi4o/edit?usp=sharing"
target="_blank"
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<div>It's quite tricky to report
the discussion without looking
too negative. I hope this is
neutral enough. I am totally
open to suggestions, obviously.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Let me know what you think,</div>
<div>Denis</div>
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<div>Le lun. 15 juin 2020 à 19:50,
Anita Graser <<a
href="mailto:anitagraser@gmx.at"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">anitagraser@gmx.at</a>>
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<p>Thank you Denis!</p>
<p>We need the summaries as
soon as possible. According
to our timeline, we wanted
to publish the voting
results at the end of June
(after a two week voting
period):</p>
<p><a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CNmSJxztrHrqLfillDH8v1zWaMzxFUyYSPT3sut55eQ/edit?usp=sharing"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CNmSJxztrHrqLfillDH8v1zWaMzxFUyYSPT3sut55eQ/edit?usp=sharing</a></p>
<p>If you can manage to write
the summaries by Sunday
21st, we can start the
voting and have the results
ready around July 6th.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Anita</p>
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2020, 19:14 Denis
Rouzaud, <<a
href="mailto:denis.rouzaud@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">denis.rouzaud@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>Hi,
<div> </div>
<div>I can give a
hand for this. I
can compile the
summaries and
comments.</div>
<div>When is it
due?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Denis</div>
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<div>On Mon, 15
Jun 2020, 19:04
Anita Graser,
<<a
href="mailto:anitagraser@gmx.at"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">anitagraser@gmx.at</a>> wrote:</div>
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<br>
Do we have any
volunteer for
compiling the
proposal and
discussion<br>
summaries?<br>
<br>
If nobody is
available to
take care of
this step - we
have to decide
if<br>
we feel
comfortable to
go ahead with
the voting
without the
summaries.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Anita<br>
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On 13.06.2020
21:06, Anita
Graser wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> Since the
QEP discussion
period is over
now, we need to
take the next<br>
> steps:<br>
><br>
> According
to our new
process
(discussed in<br>
> <a
href="https://github.com/qgis/PSC/issues/31"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/qgis/PSC/issues/31</a>),
proposal and
discussion<br>
> summaries
should be
prepared that
can be sent out
to voters.<br>
><br>
> @Paolo are
you still
available to
take care of
this?<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> Anita<br>
><br>
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