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    <p>Hi there, <br>
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    <p>Well, matrix is an open and decentralized protocol, which
      Telegram is not. <br>
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    <p>From my point of view, I would prefer Matrix, although it also as
      issues like being over paranoic on security and encryption, which
      currently is sometimes annoying from a UX perspective. <br>
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    <p>I've always been annoyed by the telegram/Signal/Whatsapp
      approach, where it is much more difficult to discover if a QGIS
      room exists. <br>
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    <p>Matrix has room discovery just like IRC, and since we can host
      the servers one days, I would vote for it. <br>
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    <p>If we really want to go on a phone-first centered app, I would
      rather vote for Signal than for telegram, even if it is de facto
      here. <br>
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    <p>Ps: my phone, probably has yours, is full of
      signal-whatsapp-telegram-matrix apps. Rationalizing this a bit
      would be very nice for our project.  <br>
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    <p>Best regards</p>
    <p>Régis<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/05/2021 16:23, Tim Sutton wrote:<br>
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          style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Isn't
          the telegram group kind of the de-facto place to chat about
          QGIS now? Do we need another chat place? @anita Is there any
          active conversation taking place in that matrix room?</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 12:18
          PM Anita Graser <<a href="mailto:anitagraser@gmx.at"
            moz-do-not-send="true">anitagraser@gmx.at</a>> wrote:<br>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Thank
          you for the info, Richard.<br>
          <br>
          Matrix (<a href="https://matrix.osgeo.org" rel="noreferrer"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://matrix.osgeo.org</a>)
          looks good to me and it seems like it<br>
          works with regular OSGeo logins which is nice (e.g.<br>
          <a href="https://app.element.io/#/room/%23qgis:osgeo.org"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://app.element.io/#/room/#qgis:osgeo.org</a>)<br>
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          Regards,<br>
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          Anita<br>
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          On 28.05.2021 12:08, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote:<br>
          > Hi,<br>
          ><br>
          > Not sure if others read, but strange things happen with
          Freenode IRC provider where QGIS has the #qgis channel.<br>
          > Read <a href="https://planet.debian.org/"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://planet.debian.org/</a>
          or more specific <a
            href="https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/8514.html"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/8514.html</a><br>
          ><br>
          > My hackerspace moved to libra.chat others to <a
            href="http://oftc.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">oftc.net</a><br>
          ><br>
          > Myself I'm totally not in IRC admin stuff (to make a move
          IF others agree), but I probably leave freenode personally.<br>
          ><br>
          > But I would be fine to now conclude to go to a Matrix
          channel (<a href="https://matrix.osgeo.org" rel="noreferrer"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://matrix.osgeo.org</a>
          or <a href="https://matrix.org/" rel="noreferrer"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://matrix.org/</a>
          itself)<br>
          ><br>
          > Opinions?<br>
          ><br>
          > Regards,<br>
          ><br>
          > Richard Duivenvoorde<br>
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