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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 18/01/2022 à 10:36, Alessandro
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<div>I tried a manual upload: <a
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<p>We are considering the same for GDAL and PROJ, but I fail to see
how the DOI record of the github integration would then be
connected with the one obtained through manual upload. I fear that
we'd have to do a manual upload in the zenodo interface each time
we issue a new release, which would a no-go as far as I'm
concerned. Maybe that's just my ignorance of the system. I've been
trying to simulate that on a fake project on
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sandbox.zenodo.org">https://sandbox.zenodo.org</a> but without success. <br>
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<p>Even<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 9:59
AM Peter Löwe <<a href="mailto:peter.loewe@gmx.de"
moz-do-not-send="true">peter.loewe@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<br>
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi
Anita, Nyall, all,<br>
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the json file is indeed optional (and can be added in the next
release, maybe together with a matching CITATION.CFF (also
optional)). The auto-generated list of authors (AFAIK the
names of the owners of the GitHub- and Zenodo-accounts) is
(just) part of the metadata on the QGIS DOI landing page ("the
Zenodo page for QGIS"). This list of authors can be edited and
extended after the DOI has been registered. It is not part of
the permanently preserved digital record (which can't be
changed after upload).<br>
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Best,<br>
Peter<br>
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<<a href="mailto:peter.loewe@gmx.de" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">peter.loewe@gmx.de</a>><br>
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> Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Januar 2022 um 08:38 Uhr<br>
> Von: "Anita Graser" <<a
href="mailto:anitagraser@gmx.at" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">anitagraser@gmx.at</a>><br>
> An: "Nyall Dawson" <<a
href="mailto:nyall.dawson@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">nyall.dawson@gmail.com</a>>,
"Alessandro Pasotti" <<a href="mailto:apasotti@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">apasotti@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Cc: "qgis-psc" <<a
href="mailto:qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
> Betreff: Re: [Qgis-psc] DOI for QGIS project / Springer
Handbook of Geoinformatics / Deadline January 20<br>
><br>
> <br>
> On 18.01.2022 00:03, Nyall Dawson wrote:<br>
> > On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 at 01:33, Alessandro Pasotti
<<a href="mailto:apasotti@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">apasotti@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> Hi Anita,<br>
> >><br>
> >> I followed the instructions and we should be
good, but as far as I know we would need to wait until the
next release is created in github to get the webhook triggered
and the DOI created.<br>
> > Don't we also need .zenodo.json file added and
populated? (as per<br>
> > <a href="https://github.com/OSGeo/PROJ/pull/3019"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/OSGeo/PROJ/pull/3019</a>)<br>
> <br>
> Hi Nyall,<br>
> <br>
> That seems optional. I don't have one in MovingPandas and
the<br>
> contributor names are automatically generated from Github
accounts I<br>
> guess: <a href="https://zenodo.org/record/5838821"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://zenodo.org/record/5838821</a><br>
> <br>
> Regards,<br>
> <br>
> Anita<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ><br>
> > Nyall<br>
> ><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 4:20 PM Anita Graser
<<a href="mailto:anitagraser@gmx.at" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">anitagraser@gmx.at</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>> Hi Alessandro,<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> That doesn't seem to be enough,
unfortunately.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> But the guide is really straightforward, so
anyone with sufficient privileges should be able to do it
rather quickly: <a
href="https://guides.lib.berkeley.edu/citeyourcode"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://guides.lib.berkeley.edu/citeyourcode</a><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Regards,<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Anita<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> On 17.01.2022 12:48, Alessandro Pasotti
wrote:<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Hi Anita,<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> I added you to the "maintain" role on
qgis/QGIS , please let me know if it's enough.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 12:27 PM Anita
Graser <<a href="mailto:anitagraser@gmx.at" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">anitagraser@gmx.at</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>>> Hi all,<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> I have a Zenodo DOI for MovingPandas and
it works great. I checked if I<br>
> >>>> can take care of it but I don't seem to
have the necessary rights to add<br>
> >>>> qgis/QGIS repo to Zenodo. The only qgis
repo where I have sufficient<br>
> >>>> rights is qgis/PSC.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> Anita<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> On 17.01.2022 10:38, Peter Löwe wrote:<br>
> >>>>> Dear QGIS Board, dear QGIS
Developers,<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> this is very gentle reminder
following up to my mail to the QGIS Board from last week (see
below): The deadline to include a DOI for QGIS in the Springer
Handbook of Geographic Information is coming up on Thursday. I
just want to make sure that all software projects covered in
the Open Source chapter can make an informed decision whether
they want to have their DOI referenced in the Handbook.
Otherwise, the project URL will be used for reference.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> Currently the second Edition of the
Springer Handbook for Geographic Information (<a
href="https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-540-72680-7"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-540-72680-7</a>)
is being finalised.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> QGIS is covered in the chapter on
Open Source GIS (thanks to the volunteer work of Marco
Hubentobler !). Neither the Editors nor the Authors receive
any pay from Springer for their work and won't benefit from
the volumes sold.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> Recently, new workflows for
scientific citation of software projects are becoming state of
the art. This includes references by persistent digital object
identifiers (DOI) to software projects instead of URLs. DOI
have several benefits over URLs, the biggest advantage for
this community might be that DOI-based references allow to
give due credit to the whole project team, including first
authors, developers, but also maintainers and people in other
roles.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> The Springer Handbook will be around
for at least five, maybe ten years. One reason for DOI (which
will keep pointing to the latest QGIS release, and maybe more
up to date content (see #5 below) is to give added value to
the readers and not to bog them down with obsolete
information.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> Until now, eight OSGeo projects will
have their DOI referenced in the Open Source Chapter, while
six more are in the process to register their DOI, hopefully
before Thursday (details here: <a
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/DOI" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/DOI</a>)<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> The QGIS community can of course
register a DOI whenever it decides to do so.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> Some reasons for DOI for the QGIS
community might be:<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> 1) Little effort, no cost and
significant benefits for everybody who's involved in QGIS and
can use scientific credit for their careers (-> students,
early career scientists, people on tenure track).<br>
> >>>>> 2) preservation of all code releases
in an open access long term repository (<a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenodo" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenodo</a>),
free of charge and effortless for the project community (bzw:
NASA is also using this approach for their data publishing: <a
href="https://earthdata.nasa.gov/collaborate/doi-process"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://earthdata.nasa.gov/collaborate/doi-process</a>)<br>
> >>>>> 3) Reference by DOI is the way to go
when citing anything with a long list of authors/committers:
QGIS has about _1001_ committers according to GitHub, that's a
lot.<br>
> >>>>> 4) When ORCIDs (<a
href="https://orcid.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://orcid.org/</a>) for persons
serving as developers, maintainers, etc. are included into the
committer - metadata (GitHub-sided), the DOI workflows will
pick this up and will add due credit by reference to their
citation lists.<br>
> >>>>> 5) DOI can be used to link
information, inclduing video recordings and presentations.
Videos from FOSS4G events can now be linked to software
project DOI and vice versa (and also linked to ORCIDs of real
people), like this one: Dobias, Martin: State of QGIS 3D, QGIS
ACoruña Conference 2019. <a
href="https://doi.org/10.5446/40791" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://doi.org/10.5446/40791</a><br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> Registering a DOI for software
projects takes only a few minutes and is described here:<br>
> >>>>> - Howto mit Screenshots: <a
href="https://guides.lib.berkeley.edu/citeyourcode"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://guides.lib.berkeley.edu/citeyourcode</a><br>
> >>>>> - Youtube Howto Video: <a
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9FGAU9S9Ow"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9FGAU9S9Ow</a><br>
> >>>>> - Inclusion of a CFF and a JSON file
in the codebase for automated GitHub-Zenodo integration: <a
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Persistent_identifiers(pid)#Howto_2"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Persistent_identifiers(pid)#Howto_2</a><br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> Please contact me if you have any
questions on this.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> Best regards,<br>
> >>>>> Peter<br>
> >>>>> <a
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Peter_Loewe"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Peter_Loewe</a><br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Januar
2022 um 12:57 Uhr<br>
> >>>>>> Von: "Peter Löwe" <<a
href="mailto:peter.loewe@gmx.de" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">peter.loewe@gmx.de</a>><br>
> >>>>>> An: <a
href="mailto:board@qgis.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">board@qgis.org</a>, <a
href="mailto:psc@qgis.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">psc@qgis.org</a><br>
> >>>>>> Betreff: DOI for QGIS project /
Springer Handbook of Geoinformatics<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> Dear QGIS community,<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> I'm reaching out to you because
of an opportunity for the QGIS project, which surfaced
recently:<br>
> >>>>>> The upcoming second edition of
the Springer Handbook of Geoinformatics will cover the QGIS
project. The Handbook project has been delayed due to the
Pandemic, but will be completed in a few weeks. I am serving
as the editor of the Handbook chapter about Open Source
Geoinformatics.<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> Recently, new workflows for
scientific citation of software projects have emerged and are
becoming state of the art. This includes references by
persistent digital object identifiers (DOI) to software
projects instead of URLs. DOI-based references allow to give
due credit to the whole project team, including first authors,
developers, but also maintainers and people in other roles.<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> The OSGeo projects GRASS GIS,
GMT, MapServer, MOSS and rasdaman have already registered
their own DOI, OSGeoLive will follow soon.<br>
> >>>>>> Hands on information how to
register a DOI for a OSGeo project are available here: <a
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Persistent_identifiers(pid)"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Persistent_identifiers(pid)</a>:<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> As an example, this is the DOI
for GRASS GIS: <a
href="https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.5810537"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.5810537</a><br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> The Editors of the Springer
Handbook agree that including DOI references for Open Source
projects is a win-win-scenario for the upcoming book and also
the OSGeo project communities. They have extended the
production deadline until January 20 to give additional
software projects the opportunity to register a DOI to be
included in the book chapter.<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> If the QGIS project registers a
DOI (takes only a few minutes) before the deadline of January
20, I would gladly include it in the Open Source
Geoinformatics chapter reference section.<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> Please let me know if you have
any questions.<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> Best,<br>
> >>>>>> Peter<br>
> >>>>>> <a
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Peter_Loewe"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Peter_Loewe</a><br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>
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> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> --<br>
> >>> Alessandro Pasotti<br>
> >>> QCooperative: <a
href="http://www.qcooperative.net" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.qcooperative.net</a><br>
> >>> ItOpen: <a href="http://www.itopen.it"
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> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> --<br>
> >> Alessandro Pasotti<br>
> >> QCooperative: <a
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> >> ItOpen: <a href="http://www.itopen.it"
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