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would be good for option 2 - I dont think the PSC needs to get
involved unless you want to defer to them for advice. For me
that follows the Principle of Self Organisation better.</div>
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<p>Hi all,</p>
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<p>I don't recall the arguments we had for not allowing
user groups to join the certificate program and I'm not
against that.</p>
<p>So I assume we all agree that user groups can apply.</p>
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<p>For the review, however, we can't apply the normal
procedure and need to decide how to come to a decision.</p>
<p>Here are some options. I prefer the first one.</p>
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<li>Applications of official User Groups will be
immediately accepted by the reviewer. User Groups by
definition contribute to QGIS and we can assume that
given the expertise in the group the course materials
are of high quality and up-to-date.</li>
<li>After application of a User Group they are asked to
provide course materials for review. PSC takes
decision based on advise from reviewer (in the normal
procedure a User Group takes the decision and if
there's no User Group, the PSC takes the decision
based on advise from the reviewer).</li>
<li>Same as 2, but reviewer takes the decission without
involvement of PSC.</li>
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<div>Please let me know your opinions so I can proceed
with the application for QGIS Ecuador.</div>
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<div>Best regards,</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> 28 January 2022 01:11<br>
<b>To:</b> Marco Bernasocchi<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Andreas Neumann; Hans van der Kwast; Kurt
Menke; QGIS PSC List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Qgis-psc] Request about
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Hans - maybe you can clarify the rationale for
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Thanks! </div>
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Probably one for Kurt and Hans to
chime in on. For me I don't see a
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I am forwarding the following
request from the QGIS user group
Ecuador (a new sustaining member
from just recently):</p>
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<p>Dear Andreas, I have a query.</p>
<p>As a group of users can we be part
of the certification program?</p>
<p>I reviewed the certification
process and registered our request,
however, I received an email in
which they mention that user groups
cannot issue certificates.</p>
<p>I have seen that there are user
groups that are in the program and
therefore register the request to
our user group in the program and be
able to contribute to the project.</p>
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I'll look forward for your answer</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Adrian</p>
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