<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Just a follow up:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I clustered the versions of QGIS so the chart is hopefully more sensible now.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">For the Operating system breakdowns, don't forget that prior to QGIS 3.24 and Ale's patch, we never got the OS back, so for now there will be a large number of "Other" reports for the OS until most of our user base is running >= 3.24. This is explained in the tooltips too...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tim</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 10:35 PM Tim Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com">tim@kartoza.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi Andreas</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 5:00 PM Andreas Neumann <<a href="mailto:andreas@qgis.org" target="_blank">andreas@qgis.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Tim,</div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">See also my answers to Régis for more context. More comments below. Note that I share the dashboard publicly so look here </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="background-color:unset;color:unset;font-family:unset;font-size:unset;font-variant-ligatures:unset;font-variant-caps:unset;font-weight:unset;letter-spacing:unset;text-align:unset;text-decoration-line:unset;text-indent:unset;text-transform:unset;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:unset"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="background-color:unset;color:unset;font-family:unset;font-size:unset;font-variant-ligatures:unset;font-variant-caps:unset;font-weight:unset;letter-spacing:unset;text-align:unset;text-decoration-line:unset;text-indent:unset;text-transform:unset;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:unset"><a href="http://feed.qgis.org/metabase/public/dashboard/df81071d-4c75-45b8-a698-97b8649d7228" target="_blank">http://feed.qgis.org/metabase/public/dashboard/df81071d-4c75-45b8-a698-97b8649d7228</a> </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="background-color:unset;color:unset;font-family:unset;font-size:unset;font-variant-ligatures:unset;font-variant-caps:unset;font-weight:unset;letter-spacing:unset;text-align:unset;text-decoration-line:unset;text-indent:unset;text-transform:unset;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:unset"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="background-color:unset;color:unset;font-family:unset;font-size:unset;font-variant-ligatures:unset;font-variant-caps:unset;font-weight:unset;letter-spacing:unset;text-align:unset;text-decoration-line:unset;text-indent:unset;text-transform:unset;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:unset">especially at the little (i) indicators which I tried to populate with more defail.</span></div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div>Looks really cool - thanks for working on this! I kind of expected the dominance of Windows as an operating system, but I am surprised to see one particular Windows (Windows 10) take such a large share. Many government agencies or companies that I know still use older Windows versions.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I guess MS has been working hard to make the upgrade process smoother which is IMHO a good thing from a security point of view.</div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>I also wonder what hides behind some of the quite large bars in the category "Other"?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">We can break them out if needed.</div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div> <br></div><div><br></div><div>When it comes to QGIS versions, I think we should better aggregate only by major versions and for now ignore the minor versions. This large fragmentation into minor/minor versions seems to lead to this gigantic large bar of "Other".<br></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yes it is on my todo list to aggregate all 3xxyy into 3xx so they show as one bucket.</div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div>Question: is there any chance to put the absolute numbers in relation with the rough population size of a country. It is only natural that large countries like France, Germany, USA and Brazil open QGIS more often than smaller countries. But put in relation with population size, the pattern could look quite different.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">The first map already does this. The second one shows absolute numbers per territory regardless of population.</div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>My cartography teachers told me that it is absolutely forbidden to use absolute numbers in choropleth maps - ABSOLUTELY FORBIDDEN ! Numbers always need to be put in relation with the size (area and/or population) of a country.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">He is probably right but I think the world of BI (Business Intelligence) has largely ignored him and the world is now littered with maps like this. I still think it is interesting to see the absolute numbers by country.</div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Thanks a lot for your work to all people involved!</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">No problem, and again let me extend the invitation to you to go onto the backend and help improve the dashboard, this is just my first chicken scratch. I think the real value will be to see the relative breakdown of platforms, versions countries and the changes to these over time so we can identify trends. In terms of absolute numbers I am still unsure if it tells us a real picture of how many users we have.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tim</div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Andreas<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 at 15:57, Tim Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank">tim@kartoza.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi PSC</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I just wanted to give you some feedback on the work we have been doing to use anonymised telemetry data from the feed to try to get a handle on the number, geography and platform choice of our user base. There are detailed notes in the image below which should explain things. Currently it has only been running about 2 weeks so the year and month charts at the end look the same, but you can expect these to diverge over time.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">If you have other things you would like to report on with the available data, please pop me a note. I still want to aggregate the platform better to lump together Win, Mac, Linux and other instead of the more granular breakdown we get right now. I will do so when I get a chance.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I do not plan to make the link to the live dashboard public as I don't want to put load on the feed server, but if you wish to access the dashboard, pop me a note and I will add you.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><a href="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/178003/165956926-a30c6c96-3b6b-4895-8afb-97e9ba0bd28c.png" target="_blank">https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/178003/165956926-a30c6c96-3b6b-4895-8afb-97e9ba0bd28c.png</a><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tim</div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="text-align:center">------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div style="text-align:center"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline"></div><img style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;"><br></div><div style="text-align:center">Tim Sutton</div><div style="text-align:center"><span style="text-align:start">Visit </span><a href="http://kartoza.com/" style="text-align:start" target="_blank">http://kartoza.com</a><span style="text-align:start"> to find out about open source:</span><br style="text-align:start"><span style="text-align:start"> * Desktop GIS programming services</span><br style="text-align:start"><span style="text-align:start"> * Geospatial web development</span></div><div style="text-align:center"><span style="text-align:start">* GIS Training</span></div><div style="text-align:center"><span style="text-align:start">* Consulting Services</span></div><div style="text-align:center"><div style="text-align:center"></div><div style="text-align:start"><div style="text-align:center">Tim is a member of the QGIS Project Steering Committee</div><div style="text-align:center">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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