<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi Jonathan</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks for your email, see comments below:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 9:05 PM Jonathan Moules <<a href="mailto:jonathan-lists@lightpear.com">jonathan-lists@lightpear.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi Tim,</p>
<p>This looks good; I love a good dashboard. Some thoughts &
bugs:</p>
<p>* Do we have telemetry for QGIS Server?</p></div></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">No - I don't think we will add this.....or at least I don't have any current plans.</div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>* The numbers on "<b>QGIS Open events on Windows per day - last
yea</b><b>r</b>" seem far too low. "<b>QGIS Daily Opens - last
30 days</b>" is showing half a million users a day but for
windows is just ~50k a day, this despite windows clearly being
90+% of users per the platform chart (well, one of those platform
charts...).</p></div></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Only QGIS >= 3.24 reports the platform. This figure will self correct as more people move to more recent builds.</div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>* Alternately, the pie-chart next to it: "<b>QGIS Daily Opens by
Platform - last 30 days</b>" is showing 86% as being "other"
platforms where "others" on the chart to the left of it for what
appears to be trying to show the same thing is only a tiny
percentage (< 6%?).<br></p></div></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Again this is explained by the lack of platform reporting in QGIS > 3.24 (see the little info popups on each chart).</div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><p>
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<p>* "<b>QGIS Daily Opens by Version - last 30 days</b>" - is
showing some of the version numbers as integers and some as
floats.</p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yes I haven't figured this out yet....it could be bogus User Agents, custom builds of QGIS.....something else?</div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>* "<b>QGIS Top Movers - Yesterday</b>" - If I sum these up I get
about 100,000. Given the total number of users yesterday per the
day-chart was only about 25k higher than a Monday average, I get
the feeling this is averaging across all-time, meaning weekends
will always show a low number and weekdays will always show a high
number (as today). I'd suggest it should probably use the average
for that-day, so it's comparing like-for-like.</p></div></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yeah this is a bit of an experiment. It compares the amount of opens yesterday to the average daily opens across all time. I don't know how informative it is, in future I may just remove it.</div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>* "<b>QGIS Total Number of Opens in this Current Month</b>" at
the top is wrong - it's identical to "last 30 days" to its left.
Also the very bottom shows the number should be 3.5 million not 10
million.</p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks, fixed now.</div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>* "<b>QGIS Total Number of Opens in this Current Month</b>" at
the top says 499,262, but the graph (<b>QGIS Daily Opens - last 30
days</b>) shows 500,359 for yesterday if I mouse over it.</p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I'm not sure why they are different - will need to poke around some more.</div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>Assuming it's SQL behind the scenes, I may be able to take a stab
at it if you want.<br></p></div></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yes I would welcome your help. I will send you some credentials, but please tray to avoid running any queries that place a high load on the server.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tim</div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><p>
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<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Jonathan<br>
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PM Andreas Neumann <<a href="mailto:andreas@qgis.org" target="_blank">andreas@qgis.org</a>>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">See
also my answers to Régis for more context. More comments
below. Note that I share the dashboard publicly so look
here </div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="background-color:unset;color:unset;font-family:unset;font-size:unset;font-variant-ligatures:unset;font-variant-caps:unset;font-weight:unset;letter-spacing:unset;text-align:unset;text-decoration-line:unset;text-indent:unset;text-transform:unset;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:unset">especially at the little (i) indicators which I tried to populate with more defail.</span></div>
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<div>Looks really cool - thanks for working on this! I
kind of expected the dominance of Windows as an
operating system, but I am surprised to see one
particular Windows (Windows 10) take such a large share.
Many government agencies or companies that I know still
use older Windows versions.</div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I
guess MS has been working hard to make the upgrade process
smoother which is IMHO a good thing from a security point
of view.</div>
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<div>I also wonder what hides behind some of the quite
large bars in the category "Other"?</div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">We
can break them out if needed.</div>
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<div>When it comes to QGIS versions, I think we should
better aggregate only by major versions and for now
ignore the minor versions. This large fragmentation into
minor/minor versions seems to lead to this gigantic
large bar of "Other".<br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yes
it is on my todo list to aggregate all 3xxyy into 3xx so
they show as one bucket.</div>
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<div>Question: is there any chance to put the absolute
numbers in relation with the rough population size of a
country. It is only natural that large countries like
France, Germany, USA and Brazil open QGIS more often
than smaller countries. But put in relation with
population size, the pattern could look quite different.</div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">The
first map already does this. The second one shows absolute
numbers per territory regardless of population.</div>
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<div>My cartography teachers told me that it is absolutely
forbidden to use absolute numbers in choropleth maps -
ABSOLUTELY FORBIDDEN ! Numbers always need to be put in
relation with the size (area and/or population) of a
country.</div>
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<div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">He
is probably right but I think the world of BI (Business
Intelligence) has largely ignored him and the world is now
littered with maps like this. I still think it is
interesting to see the absolute numbers by country.</div>
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<div>Thanks a lot for your work to all people involved!</div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">No
problem, and again let me extend the invitation to you to
go onto the backend and help improve the dashboard, this
is just my first chicken scratch. I think the real value
will be to see the relative breakdown of platforms,
versions countries and the changes to these over time so
we can identify trends. In terms of absolute numbers I am
still unsure if it tells us a real picture of how many
users we have.</div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tim</div>
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15:57, Tim Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank">tim@kartoza.com</a>>
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PSC</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I
just wanted to give you some feedback on the work we
have been doing to use anonymised telemetry data
from the feed to try to get a handle on the number,
geography and platform choice of our user base.
There are detailed notes in the image below
which should explain things. Currently it has only
been running about 2 weeks so the year and month
charts at the end look the same, but you can expect
these to diverge over time.</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">If
you have other things you would like to report on
with the available data, please pop me a note. I
still want to aggregate the platform better to lump
together Win, Mac, Linux and other instead of the
more granular breakdown we get right now. I will do
so when I get a chance.</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I
do not plan to make the link to the live dashboard
public as I don't want to put load on the feed
server, but if you wish to access the dashboard, pop
me a note and I will add you.</div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div>
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