<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Ah that is a cool update! Thanks so much for your help Jonathan!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tim</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 8:29 PM Jonathan Moules <<a href="mailto:jonathan-lists@lightpear.com">jonathan-lists@lightpear.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>Hi Tim,</p>
<p>Thanks for the login credentials. I did some fiddling with the
versions:</p>
<p>* Some SQL to get clean QGIS versions<br>
</p>
<p>* QGIS Version 30-day graph now uses this (Major.Minor version
only).</p>
<p>* 20 most used full-versions (Major.Minor.Patch) for the past
week (table) - so we can see what users are using now(ish)<br>
</p>
<p>* History of QGIS version use as an area graph - very cool - got
it by fiddling around with things I didn't understand. :-D</p>
<p>* Stacked bar graph of versions. Basically the same as
history-of-qgis but different representation (not sure as to the
value of this one; happy to delete if no-one has a use for it).<br>
</p>
<p>You can see them all a little over half-way down on the
dashboard. - <span style="background-color:unset;color:unset;font-family:unset;font-size:unset;font-variant-ligatures:unset;font-variant-caps:unset;font-weight:unset;letter-spacing:unset;text-align:unset;text-decoration-line:unset;text-indent:unset;text-transform:unset;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:unset"><a href="http://feed.qgis.org/metabase/public/dashboard/df81071d-4c75-45b8-a698-97b8649d7228" target="_blank">http://feed.qgis.org/metabase/public/dashboard/df81071d-4c75-45b8-a698-97b8649d7228</a> </span></p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Jonathan</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div>On 2022-05-11 00:39, Tim Sutton wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi
Jonathan</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks
for your email, see comments below:</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 9:05
PM Jonathan Moules <<a href="mailto:jonathan-lists@lightpear.com" target="_blank">jonathan-lists@lightpear.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
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<p>Hi Tim,</p>
<p>This looks good; I love a good dashboard. Some thoughts
& bugs:</p>
<p>* Do we have telemetry for QGIS Server?</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">No
- I don't think we will add this.....or at least I
don't have any current plans.</div>
<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<div>
<p>* The numbers on "<b>QGIS Open events on Windows per
day - last yea</b><b>r</b>" seem far too low. "<b>QGIS
Daily Opens - last 30 days</b>" is showing half a
million users a day but for windows is just ~50k a day,
this despite windows clearly being 90+% of users per the
platform chart (well, one of those platform charts...).</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Only
QGIS >= 3.24 reports the platform. This figure will
self correct as more people move to more recent builds.</div>
<br>
</div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>* Alternately, the pie-chart next to it: "<b>QGIS Daily
Opens by Platform - last 30 days</b>" is showing 86%
as being "other" platforms where "others" on the chart
to the left of it for what appears to be trying to show
the same thing is only a tiny percentage (< 6%?).<br>
</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Again
this is explained by the lack of platform reporting in
QGIS > 3.24 (see the little info popups on each chart).</div>
<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> </div>
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<div>
<p> </p>
<p>* "<b>QGIS Daily Opens by Version - last 30 days</b>" -
is showing some of the version numbers as integers and
some as floats.</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yes
I haven't figured this out yet....it could be bogus User
Agents, custom builds of QGIS.....something else?</div>
<br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>* "<b>QGIS Top Movers - Yesterday</b>" - If I sum these
up I get about 100,000. Given the total number of users
yesterday per the day-chart was only about 25k higher
than a Monday average, I get the feeling this is
averaging across all-time, meaning weekends will always
show a low number and weekdays will always show a high
number (as today). I'd suggest it should probably use
the average for that-day, so it's comparing
like-for-like.</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yeah
this is a bit of an experiment. It compares the amount of
opens yesterday to the average daily opens across all
time. I don't know how informative it is, in future I may
just remove it.</div>
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</div>
<div> </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>* "<b>QGIS Total Number of Opens in this Current Month</b>"
at the top is wrong - it's identical to "last 30 days"
to its left. Also the very bottom shows the number
should be 3.5 million not 10 million.</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks,
fixed now.</div>
<br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>* "<b>QGIS Total Number of Opens in this Current Month</b>"
at the top says 499,262, but the graph (<b>QGIS Daily
Opens - last 30 days</b>) shows 500,359 for yesterday
if I mouse over it.</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I'm
not sure why they are different - will need to poke around
some more.</div>
<br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>Assuming it's SQL behind the scenes, I may be able to
take a stab at it if you want.<br>
</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yes
I would welcome your help. I will send you some
credentials, but please tray to avoid running any queries
that place a high load on the server.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tim</div>
<br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<p> </p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Jonathan<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div>On 2022-04-29 22:35, Tim Sutton wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi
Andreas</div>
</div>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 29,
2022 at 5:00 PM Andreas Neumann <<a href="mailto:andreas@qgis.org" target="_blank">andreas@qgis.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Tim,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">See
also my answers to Régis for more context. More
comments below. Note that I share the dashboard
publicly so look here </div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="background-color:unset;color:unset;font-family:unset;font-size:unset;font-variant-ligatures:unset;font-variant-caps:unset;font-weight:unset;letter-spacing:unset;text-align:unset;text-decoration-line:unset;text-indent:unset;text-transform:unset;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:unset">
</span></div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="background-color:unset;color:unset;font-family:unset;font-size:unset;font-variant-ligatures:unset;font-variant-caps:unset;font-weight:unset;letter-spacing:unset;text-align:unset;text-decoration-line:unset;text-indent:unset;text-transform:unset;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:unset"><a href="http://feed.qgis.org/metabase/public/dashboard/df81071d-4c75-45b8-a698-97b8649d7228" target="_blank">http://feed.qgis.org/metabase/public/dashboard/df81071d-4c75-45b8-a698-97b8649d7228</a> </span></div>
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</span></div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="background-color:unset;color:unset;font-family:unset;font-size:unset;font-variant-ligatures:unset;font-variant-caps:unset;font-weight:unset;letter-spacing:unset;text-align:unset;text-decoration-line:unset;text-indent:unset;text-transform:unset;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:unset">especially at the little (i) indicators which I tried to populate with more defail.</span></div>
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</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Looks really cool - thanks for working on
this! I kind of expected the dominance of
Windows as an operating system, but I am
surprised to see one particular Windows
(Windows 10) take such a large share. Many
government agencies or companies that I know
still use older Windows versions.</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I
guess MS has been working hard to make the
upgrade process smoother which is IMHO a good
thing from a security point of view.</div>
<br>
</div>
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</div>
<div>I also wonder what hides behind some of the
quite large bars in the category "Other"?</div>
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</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">We
can break them out if needed.</div>
<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<div> <br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>When it comes to QGIS versions, I think we
should better aggregate only by major versions
and for now ignore the minor versions. This
large fragmentation into minor/minor versions
seems to lead to this gigantic large bar of
"Other".<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yes
it is on my todo list to aggregate all 3xxyy
into 3xx so they show as one bucket.</div>
<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<div>Question: is there any chance to put the
absolute numbers in relation with the rough
population size of a country. It is only
natural that large countries like France,
Germany, USA and Brazil open QGIS more often
than smaller countries. But put in relation
with population size, the pattern could look
quite different.</div>
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</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">The
first map already does this. The second one
shows absolute numbers per territory regardless
of population.</div>
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</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<div>My cartography teachers told me that it is
absolutely forbidden to use absolute numbers
in choropleth maps - ABSOLUTELY FORBIDDEN !
Numbers always need to be put in relation with
the size (area and/or population) of a
country.</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">He
is probably right but I think the world of BI
(Business Intelligence) has largely ignored him
and the world is now littered with maps like
this. I still think it is interesting to see the
absolute numbers by country.</div>
<br>
</div>
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<div>Thanks a lot for your work to all people
involved!</div>
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</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">No
problem, and again let me extend the invitation
to you to go onto the backend and help improve
the dashboard, this is just my first chicken
scratch. I think the real value will be to see
the relative breakdown of platforms, versions
countries and the changes to these over time so
we can identify trends. In terms of absolute
numbers I am still unsure if it tells us a real
picture of how many users we have.</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tim</div>
<br>
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<div>Andreas<br>
</div>
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</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 29 Apr
2022 at 15:57, Tim Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank">tim@kartoza.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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PSC</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I
just wanted to give you some feedback on
the work we have been doing to use
anonymised telemetry data from the feed to
try to get a handle on the number,
geography and platform choice of our user
base. There are detailed notes in the
image below which should explain things.
Currently it has only been running about 2
weeks so the year and month charts at the
end look the same, but you can expect
these to diverge over time.</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">If
you have other things you would like to
report on with the available data, please
pop me a note. I still want to aggregate
the platform better to lump together Win,
Mac, Linux and other instead of the
more granular breakdown we get right now.
I will do so when I get a chance.</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I
do not plan to make the link to the live
dashboard public as I don't want to put
load on the feed server, but if you wish
to access the dashboard, pop me a note and
I will add you.</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div>
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<div style="text-align:center"><span style="text-align:start">Visit </span><a href="http://kartoza.com/" style="text-align:start" target="_blank">http://kartoza.com</a><span style="text-align:start"> to find out
about open source:</span><br style="text-align:start">
<span style="text-align:start"> * Desktop
GIS programming services</span><br style="text-align:start">
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web development</span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center">Tim Sutton</div>
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source:</span><br style="text-align:start">
<span style="text-align:start"> * Desktop GIS
programming services</span><br style="text-align:start">
<span style="text-align:start"> * Geospatial web
development</span></div>
<div style="text-align:center"><span style="text-align:start">* GIS Training</span></div>
<div style="text-align:center"><span style="text-align:start">* Consulting Services</span></div>
<div style="text-align:center">
<div style="text-align:start">
<div style="text-align:center">Tim is a member of
the QGIS Project Steering Committee</div>
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