<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Ah that is a cool update! Thanks so much for your help Jonathan!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tim</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 8:29 PM Jonathan Moules <<a href="mailto:jonathan-lists@lightpear.com">jonathan-lists@lightpear.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Hi Tim,</p>
    <p>Thanks for the login credentials. I did some fiddling with the
      versions:</p>
    <p>* Some SQL to get clean QGIS versions<br>
    </p>
    <p>* QGIS Version 30-day graph now uses this (Major.Minor version
      only).</p>
    <p>* 20 most used full-versions (Major.Minor.Patch) for the past
      week (table) - so we can see what users are using now(ish)<br>
    </p>
    <p>* History of QGIS version use as an area graph - very cool - got
      it by fiddling around with things I didn't understand. :-D</p>
    <p>* Stacked bar graph of versions. Basically the same as
      history-of-qgis but different representation (not sure as to the
      value of this one; happy to delete if no-one has a use for it).<br>
    </p>
    <p>You can see them all a little over half-way down on the
      dashboard. - <span style="background-color:unset;color:unset;font-family:unset;font-size:unset;font-variant-ligatures:unset;font-variant-caps:unset;font-weight:unset;letter-spacing:unset;text-align:unset;text-decoration-line:unset;text-indent:unset;text-transform:unset;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:unset"><a href="http://feed.qgis.org/metabase/public/dashboard/df81071d-4c75-45b8-a698-97b8649d7228" target="_blank">http://feed.qgis.org/metabase/public/dashboard/df81071d-4c75-45b8-a698-97b8649d7228</a> </span></p>
    <p>Cheers,</p>
    <p>Jonathan</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div>On 2022-05-11 00:39, Tim Sutton wrote:<br>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi
            Jonathan</div>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks
            for your email, see comments below:</div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 9:05
            PM Jonathan Moules <<a href="mailto:jonathan-lists@lightpear.com" target="_blank">jonathan-lists@lightpear.com</a>>
            wrote:<br>
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              <p>Hi Tim,</p>
              <p>This looks good; I love a good dashboard. Some thoughts
                & bugs:</p>
              <p>* Do we have telemetry for QGIS Server?</p>
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          <div>
            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">No
              - I don't think we will add this.....or at least I
              don't have any current plans.</div>
            <br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div> </div>
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              <p>* The numbers on "<b>QGIS Open events on Windows per
                  day - last yea</b><b>r</b>" seem far too low. "<b>QGIS
                  Daily Opens - last 30 days</b>" is showing half a
                million users a day but for windows is just ~50k a day,
                this despite windows clearly being 90+% of users per the
                platform chart (well, one of those platform charts...).</p>
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          </blockquote>
          <div>
            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Only
              QGIS >= 3.24 reports the platform. This figure will
              self correct as more people move to more recent builds.</div>
            <br>
          </div>
          <div> </div>
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              <p>* Alternately, the pie-chart next to it: "<b>QGIS Daily
                  Opens by Platform - last 30 days</b>" is showing 86%
                as being "other" platforms where "others" on the chart
                to the left of it for what appears to be trying to show
                the same thing is only a tiny percentage (< 6%?).<br>
              </p>
            </div>
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          <div>
            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Again
              this is explained by the lack of platform reporting in
              QGIS > 3.24 (see the little info popups on each chart).</div>
            <br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div> </div>
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              <p> </p>
              <p>* "<b>QGIS Daily Opens by Version - last 30 days</b>" -
                is showing some of the version numbers as integers and
                some as floats.</p>
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          <div><br>
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          <div>
            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yes
              I haven't figured this out yet....it could be bogus User
              Agents, custom builds of QGIS.....something else?</div>
            <br>
          </div>
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              <p>* "<b>QGIS Top Movers - Yesterday</b>" - If I sum these
                up I get about 100,000. Given the total number of users
                yesterday per the day-chart was only about 25k higher
                than a Monday average, I get the feeling this is
                averaging across all-time, meaning weekends will always
                show a low number and weekdays will always show a high
                number (as today). I'd suggest it should probably use
                the average for that-day, so it's comparing
                like-for-like.</p>
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          </blockquote>
          <div>
            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yeah
              this is a bit of an experiment. It compares the amount of
              opens yesterday to the average daily opens across all
              time. I don't know how informative it is, in future I may
              just remove it.</div>
            <br>
          </div>
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              <p>* "<b>QGIS Total Number of Opens in this Current Month</b>"
                at the top is wrong - it's identical to "last 30 days"
                to its left. Also the very bottom shows the number
                should be 3.5 million not 10 million.</p>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>
            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks,
              fixed now.</div>
            <br>
          </div>
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            <div>
              <p>* "<b>QGIS Total Number of Opens in this Current Month</b>"
                at the top says 499,262, but the graph (<b>QGIS Daily
                  Opens - last 30 days</b>) shows 500,359 for yesterday
                if I mouse over it.</p>
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          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>
            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I'm
              not sure why they are different - will need to poke around
              some more.</div>
            <br>
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            <div>
              <p>Assuming it's SQL behind the scenes, I may be able to
                take a stab at it if you want.<br>
              </p>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <div>
            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yes
              I would welcome your help. I will send you some
              credentials, but please tray to avoid running any queries
              that place a high load on the server.</div>
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            </div>
            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div>
            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
            </div>
            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tim</div>
            <br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
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              <p> </p>
              <p>Cheers,</p>
              <p>Jonathan<br>
              </p>
              <p><br>
              </p>
              <div>On 2022-04-29 22:35, Tim Sutton wrote:<br>
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                    <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi
                      Andreas</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 29,
                      2022 at 5:00 PM Andreas Neumann <<a href="mailto:andreas@qgis.org" target="_blank">andreas@qgis.org</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
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                        <div>Hi Tim,</div>
                        <div><br>
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                    <div>
                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">See
                        also my answers to Régis for more context. More
                        comments below. Note that I share the dashboard
                        publicly so look here </div>
                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="background-color:unset;color:unset;font-family:unset;font-size:unset;font-variant-ligatures:unset;font-variant-caps:unset;font-weight:unset;letter-spacing:unset;text-align:unset;text-decoration-line:unset;text-indent:unset;text-transform:unset;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:unset">
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                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="background-color:unset;color:unset;font-family:unset;font-size:unset;font-variant-ligatures:unset;font-variant-caps:unset;font-weight:unset;letter-spacing:unset;text-align:unset;text-decoration-line:unset;text-indent:unset;text-transform:unset;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:unset"><a href="http://feed.qgis.org/metabase/public/dashboard/df81071d-4c75-45b8-a698-97b8649d7228" target="_blank">http://feed.qgis.org/metabase/public/dashboard/df81071d-4c75-45b8-a698-97b8649d7228</a> </span></div>
                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="background-color:unset;color:unset;font-family:unset;font-size:unset;font-variant-ligatures:unset;font-variant-caps:unset;font-weight:unset;letter-spacing:unset;text-align:unset;text-decoration-line:unset;text-indent:unset;text-transform:unset;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:unset">
</span></div>
                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="background-color:unset;color:unset;font-family:unset;font-size:unset;font-variant-ligatures:unset;font-variant-caps:unset;font-weight:unset;letter-spacing:unset;text-align:unset;text-decoration-line:unset;text-indent:unset;text-transform:unset;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:unset">especially at the little (i) indicators which I tried to populate with more defail.</span></div>
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                        <div>Looks really cool - thanks for working on
                          this! I kind of expected the dominance of
                          Windows as an operating system, but I am
                          surprised to see one particular Windows
                          (Windows 10) take such a large share. Many
                          government agencies or companies that I know
                          still use older Windows versions.</div>
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                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I
                        guess MS has been working hard to make the
                        upgrade process smoother which is IMHO a good
                        thing from a security point of view.</div>
                      <br>
                    </div>
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                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>I also wonder what hides behind some of the
                          quite large bars in the category "Other"?</div>
                      </div>
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                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">We
                        can break them out if needed.</div>
                      <br>
                    </div>
                    <div><br>
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                        <div> <br>
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                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>When it comes to QGIS versions, I think we
                          should better aggregate only by major versions
                          and for now ignore the minor versions. This
                          large fragmentation into minor/minor versions
                          seems to lead to this gigantic large bar of
                          "Other".<br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <div>
                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yes
                        it is on my todo list to aggregate all 3xxyy
                        into 3xx so they show as one bucket.</div>
                      <br>
                    </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
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                        <div>Question: is there any chance to put the
                          absolute numbers in relation with the rough
                          population size of a country. It is only
                          natural that large countries like France,
                          Germany, USA and Brazil open QGIS  more often
                          than smaller countries. But put in relation
                          with population size, the pattern could look
                          quite different.</div>
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                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">The
                        first map already does this. The second one
                        shows absolute numbers per territory regardless
                        of population.</div>
                      <br>
                    </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div> </div>
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                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>My cartography teachers told me that it is
                          absolutely forbidden to use absolute numbers
                          in choropleth maps - ABSOLUTELY FORBIDDEN !
                          Numbers always need to be put in relation with
                          the size (area and/or population) of a
                          country.</div>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">He
                        is probably right but I think the world of BI
                        (Business Intelligence) has largely ignored him
                        and the world is now littered with maps like
                        this. I still think it is interesting to see the
                        absolute numbers by country.</div>
                      <br>
                    </div>
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                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Thanks a lot for your work to all people
                          involved!</div>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <div><br>
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                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">No
                        problem, and again let me extend the invitation
                        to you to go onto the backend and help improve
                        the dashboard, this is just my first chicken
                        scratch. I think the real value will be to see
                        the relative breakdown of platforms, versions
                        countries and the changes to these over time so
                        we can identify trends. In terms of absolute
                        numbers I am still unsure if it tells us a real
                        picture of how many users we have.</div>
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                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div>
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 29 Apr
                          2022 at 15:57, Tim Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank">tim@kartoza.com</a>>
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                            <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi
                              PSC</div>
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                            <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I
                              just wanted to give you some feedback on
                              the work we have been doing to use
                              anonymised telemetry data from the feed to
                              try to get a handle on the number,
                              geography and platform choice of our user
                              base. There are detailed notes in the
                              image below which should explain things.
                              Currently it has only been running about 2
                              weeks so the year and month charts at the
                              end look the same, but you can expect
                              these to diverge over time.</div>
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                            <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">If
                              you have other things you would like to
                              report on with the available data, please
                              pop me a note. I still want to aggregate
                              the platform  better to lump together Win,
                              Mac, Linux and other instead of the
                              more granular breakdown we get right now.
                              I will do so when I get a chance.</div>
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                            <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I
                              do not plan to make the link to the live
                              dashboard public as I don't want to put
                              load on the feed server, but if you wish
                              to access the dashboard, pop me a note and
                              I will add you.</div>
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                            <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div>
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                <div style="text-align:center"><span style="text-align:start">Visit </span><a href="http://kartoza.com/" style="text-align:start" target="_blank">http://kartoza.com</a><span style="text-align:start"> to find out about open
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                    programming services</span><br style="text-align:start">
                  <span style="text-align:start"> * Geospatial web
                    development</span></div>
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