<div dir="auto">Hi,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We are using <a href="https://weblate.osgeo.org/">https://weblate.osgeo.org/</a> (moved there from transifex) for GRASS GIS and it works great.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Markus</div><div dir="auto">PS: greetings from Florence :)</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Delaz J <<a href="mailto:delazj@gmail.com">delazj@gmail.com</a>> schrieb am Mo., 22. Aug. 2022, 12:13:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Hi all,</p>
    <p>Just a quick note that OSGeo has an instance of Weblate. And if
      I'm not wrong this is what GRASS and PostGIS are using.</p>
    <p>Harrissou<br>
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    <div>Le 22/08/2022 à 11:57, Régis Haubourg a
      écrit :<br>
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        <div>Hi Tim, <br>
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        <div>thanks for raising this rabbit hole issue :)<br>
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        <div>We have currently more than 1.5 M strings to translate, and
          we probably need 166K strings  for 1.5M words to handle growth
          in the next years.  <br>
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        <div>I know that Harrissou and Matthias mentioned Weblate as an
          open source alternative. <br>
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        <div>Looking at the feature grid for Libre projects of Weblate,
          I'm afraid we will have issues with the limit of 10 000
          strings to translate. If we don't want to host it ourselves,
          we might anyway have to go to paying plans. <br>
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        <div>Paid plans for transifex will cost a lot too. I see
          something between 420 € to  1200 $ / month at least, and this
          depends a lot if they count strings or words as a reference.</div>
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        <div>I suspect the economic model of cloud weblate would lead us
          to similar costs. <br>
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        <div>So, I'd prefer the PSC sponsoring someone to try pontoon or
          weblate self-hosted alternative. <br>
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        <div>Régis<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le lun. 22 août 2022 à 10:58,
          Tim Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tim@kartoza.com</a>>
          a écrit :<br>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi
              all</div>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">RABBIT
                HOLE WARNING</div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">So
                I have been looking over the options we have for doing
                live translations via transifex or other platforms. I
                discovered here:</div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><a href="https://docs.transifex.com/projects/open-source-project" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://docs.transifex.com/projects/open-source-project</a></div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">that
                we are not really (i.e. not at all) meeting the criteria
                of Transifex any more. Particularly this one:</div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">"Transifex
                offers an Open Source Program to Open Source projects
                that have <b>no funding, revenue, and/or
                  commercialization model</b>. The intent is to support
                <b>small</b> and independent Open Source projects."<br>
              </div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I
                think we should address this and either a) pay to use
                transifex or b) look into using an open source
                alternative like pontoon (<a href="https://github.com/mozilla/pontoon/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://github.com/mozilla/pontoon/</a>).
                Pontoon looks great and seems to provide quite similar
                capabilities for the current workflows we have. The
                gotcha seems to be they really try to nudge you to
                deploying on heroku which is yet more managed
                infrastructure.</div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
              </div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Another
                thing we are wondering is if we can find a system that
                lets you do live translations like transifex does (we
                don't currently use the feature but it would let us
                separate parts of the web site into something more
                dynamically updatable via a CMS).</div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">So
                my questions are:</div>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">*
                what do we do about transifex terms and conditions?</div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">*
                has anyone looked at alternatives before and come up
                with a good system?</div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">*
                is there any interest in us hosting our own pontoon
                instance?</div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
              </div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tim</div>
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                    <div style="text-align:center"><span style="text-align:start">Visit </span><a href="http://kartoza.com/" style="text-align:start" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://kartoza.com</a><span style="text-align:start"> to find out about open
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                          of the QGIS Project Steering Committee</div>
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