<div dir="auto">Hi,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">About weblate. Osgeo already hosts a weblate instance for PostGIS. And, as far as remember they would be open to add QGIS too.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I would try that before anything else.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best regards,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Alexandre Neto<br><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">A segunda, 22/08/2022, 10:58, Régis Haubourg <<a href="mailto:regis.haubourg@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">regis.haubourg@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Tim, <br></div><div>thanks for raising this rabbit hole issue :)<br></div><div><br></div><div>We have currently more than 1.5 M strings to translate, and we probably need 166K strings for 1.5M words to handle growth in the next years. <br></div><div>I know that Harrissou and Matthias mentioned Weblate as an open source alternative. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Looking at the feature grid for Libre projects of Weblate, I'm afraid we will have issues with the limit of 10 000 strings to translate. If we don't want to host it ourselves, we might anyway have to go to paying plans. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Paid plans for transifex will cost a lot too. I see something between 420 € to 1200 $ / month at least, and this depends a lot if they count strings or words as a reference.</div><div><br></div><div>I suspect the economic model of cloud weblate would lead us to similar costs. <br></div><div><br></div><div>So, I'd prefer the PSC sponsoring someone to try pontoon or weblate self-hosted alternative. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Régis<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le lun. 22 août 2022 à 10:58, Tim Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">tim@kartoza.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi all</div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">RABBIT HOLE WARNING</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">So I have been looking over the options we have for doing live translations via transifex or other platforms. I discovered here:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><a href="https://docs.transifex.com/projects/open-source-project" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.transifex.com/projects/open-source-project</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">that we are not really (i.e. not at all) meeting the criteria of Transifex any more. Particularly this one:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">"Transifex offers an Open Source Program to Open Source projects that
have <b>no funding, revenue, and/or commercialization model</b>. The intent is
to support <b>small</b> and independent Open Source projects."<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I think we should address this and either a) pay to use transifex or b) look into using an open source alternative like pontoon (<a href="https://github.com/mozilla/pontoon/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/mozilla/pontoon/</a>). Pontoon looks great and seems to provide quite similar capabilities for the current workflows we have. The gotcha seems to be they really try to nudge you to deploying on heroku which is yet more managed infrastructure.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Another thing we are wondering is if we can find a system that lets you do live translations like transifex does (we don't currently use the feature but it would let us separate parts of the web site into something more dynamically updatable via a CMS).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">So my questions are:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">* what do we do about transifex terms and conditions?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">* has anyone looked at alternatives before and come up with a good system?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">* is there any interest in us hosting our own pontoon instance?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tim</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="text-align:center">------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div style="text-align:center"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline"></div><img style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><br></div><div style="text-align:center">Tim Sutton</div><div style="text-align:center"><span style="text-align:start">Visit </span><a href="http://kartoza.com/" style="text-align:start" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://kartoza.com</a><span style="text-align:start"> to find out about open source:</span><br style="text-align:start"><span style="text-align:start"> * Desktop GIS programming services</span><br style="text-align:start"><span style="text-align:start"> * Geospatial web development</span></div><div style="text-align:center"><span style="text-align:start">* GIS Training</span></div><div style="text-align:center"><span style="text-align:start">* Consulting Services</span></div><div style="text-align:center"><div style="text-align:center"></div><div style="text-align:start"><div style="text-align:center">Tim is a member of the QGIS Project Steering Committee</div><div style="text-align:center">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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