<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yes of course Matteo, anyone interested feel free to get onboard.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tim</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 4:17 PM matteo via QGIS-PSC <<a href="mailto:qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org">qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
<br>
that's a great idea! It would be a pleasure for us to be involved in <br>
this process.<br>
<br>
Cheers and thanks<br>
<br>
Matteo<br>
<br>
On 4/19/23 14:15, Tim Sutton via QGIS-PSC wrote:<br>
> Dear friends<br>
> <br>
> Attached below are my rough notes from our BoF session on education (& <br>
> certification) that we held today at the QGIS conference. Please note <br>
> that this is an open discussion and not a bunch of mandates. We will <br>
> groom our thoughts into a document which properly describes our plans in <br>
> a more concrete way, and then ask the PSC for a mandate to continue.<br>
> <br>
> Please feel free to pick up a discussion here in this thread if you <br>
> would like more context or you would like to provide more information.<br>
> <br>
> I have created a document <br>
> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JoN8ShzLQ5sF6BEYJCiOPZMAWw5sg9l3zt5Jo7OkXjA/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JoN8ShzLQ5sF6BEYJCiOPZMAWw5sg9l3zt5Jo7OkXjA/edit?usp=sharing</a>> that we can use to compose our combined thoughts in a structured manner.<br>
> <br>
> Regards<br>
> <br>
> Tim<br>
> <br>
> * QGIS Education Bof<br>
> o Present:<br>
> + Andre Mano - GIS Expert <a href="mailto:a.dasilvamano@utwente.nl" target="_blank">a.dasilvamano@utwente.nl</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:a.dasilvamano@utwente.nl" target="_blank">a.dasilvamano@utwente.nl</a>><br>
> + Kurt Menke - Certification Team - <a href="mailto:kurt@septima.dk" target="_blank">kurt@septima.dk</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kurt@septima.dk" target="_blank">kurt@septima.dk</a>><br>
> + Yneke van Iersel -trainee at Geodan<br>
> <a href="mailto:yneke.van.iersel@geodan.nl" target="_blank">yneke.van.iersel@geodan.nl</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:yneke.van.iersel@geodan.nl" target="_blank">yneke.van.iersel@geodan.nl</a>><br>
> + Mark Terlien - Educator <a href="mailto:m.terlien@has.nl" target="_blank">m.terlien@has.nl</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:m.terlien@has.nl" target="_blank">m.terlien@has.nl</a>><br>
> + Linda Angulo Lopez - Natural History Museum in Paris<br>
> <a href="mailto:angulo.linda@gmail.com" target="_blank">angulo.linda@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:angulo.linda@gmail.com" target="_blank">angulo.linda@gmail.com</a>><br>
> + Marco Bernasocchi - PSC Chair <a href="mailto:marco@qgis.org" target="_blank">marco@qgis.org</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:marco@qgis.org" target="_blank">marco@qgis.org</a>><br>
> + David van Winsum - incompany Educator<br>
> <a href="mailto:david.vanwinsum@anteagroup.nl" target="_blank">david.vanwinsum@anteagroup.nl</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:david.vanwinsum@anteagroup.nl" target="_blank">david.vanwinsum@anteagroup.nl</a>><br>
> + Marielle Geers - Educator <a href="mailto:geersplasmans@hotmail.com" target="_blank">geersplasmans@hotmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:geersplasmans@hotmail.com" target="_blank">geersplasmans@hotmail.com</a>><br>
> o Open Science Initiative - EU funded programmes<br>
> o Discussion point how to convince departments to adopt QGIS with<br>
> or instead of ESRI<br>
> o Needs a 'gently gently' approach rather than hard mandates<br>
> o Internship market place - discussed idea of pair EU and e.g. SA<br>
> interns<br>
> o Possibly Erasmus funding if the partner org is in EU e.g. Kartoza EU<br>
> o Possibly add new flavour of QGIS certificate specific for<br>
> internships<br>
> o Discussed more the idea of getting certification as a trainer<br>
> rather as an org<br>
> o Perhaps the trainer can have more specific enrollment requirement<br>
> + how will we measure competency? Various options discussed:<br>
> + language issue<br>
> + standardised course via annointed teachers to bootstrap<br>
> + Possible starting group of 'annointed trainers'<br>
> # Giovanni<br>
> # Ujaval<br>
> # Hans<br>
> + Three parts to the programme:<br>
> # Didactic skills<br>
> # Technical skills<br>
> # Ecosystem - how OS and community involvement works,<br>
> release schedule<br>
> + Clear criteria for class<br>
> # Marielle & Mark volunteering to help to develop didactic<br>
> criteria<br>
> # Technical skills requirements criteria developed by Giovanni<br>
> # Ecosystem criteria - Andre Mano to develop criteria<br>
> + Certification maintenance:<br>
> # How long will certification last? Criteria like minimum<br>
> number of certificates to issue over a period (with<br>
> system implementation to flag these automatically)<br>
> + Cost for trainer certificate:<br>
> # Needs to attend the training of an official train the<br>
> trainer who sets the price himself for the course<br>
> # QGIS Contribution part of the certification - price TBD<br>
> # Big mac index pricing for certification?<br>
> # Need to ensure we spread the grandfathered in train the<br>
> traininer corps around the globe so that there is good<br>
> chance to find a trainer course at an equitable fee<br>
> + Each certified org needs to have at least one certified trainer<br>
> + Having at least one certified trainer by certified<br>
> organization, however the certificates can still be issued<br>
> by non-certified trainers as long as the signature of a<br>
> certified trainer is also included in the certificate.<br>
> #<br>
> + Tim to get Dimas to implement big mac based system and train<br>
> the traininer system under current QGIS funding (we have<br>
> about 8 days available TBC). Other technical implementations<br>
> # Platform may only issue course certificates attached to<br>
> a certified trainer<br>
> # Modify the certificates to include the :<br>
> * Org logo<br>
> * Training presenter signature (they do not need to be<br>
> a certified trainer)<br>
> *<br>
> + Next steps:<br>
> # *Tim* to set up a requirements doc and invite all<br>
> participants to share their ideas with a deadline<br>
> # Three coordinators to lead the sections in the user<br>
> facing docs on what the curriculum requirements are (and<br>
> add them to the requirements doc)<br>
> * *Marielle & Mark* volunteering to help to develop<br>
> didactic criteria<br>
> * Technical skills requirements criteria developed by<br>
> *Giovanni* (first need to chat to him)<br>
> * Ecosystem criteria - *Andre Mano* to develop criteria<br>
> # *Marco:* List of grandfathered certifiers to be<br>
> identified and agreed with PSC<br>
> # Communicate to the broader community<br>
> # *Tim* to put Marielle in contact with Seabilwe and<br>
> Bridget to share ideas on how to introduce QGIS into schools<br>
> #<br>
> #<br>
> #<br>
> +<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> -- <br>
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> Kartoza Co-Founder<br>
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