<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks Ben, and yes of course have been tracking the wonderful work you do, please feel free to be involved.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tim</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 7:10 PM Ben Hur Pintor <<a href="mailto:bnhr.xyz@gmail.com">bnhr.xyz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi all and thanks Tim for the update.<br><br>I think this is a worthwhile initiative and I'd love to help or be involved if possible.<br><br>I'm a long-time FOSS4G user and educator. I've been doing training and building QGIS learning resources—most of which in the open—for quite some time and around 2020, my consulting business BNHR, became a QGIS Certifying organization—the first here in the Philippines at the time. <br><br><div>During my tenure as part of the Open Knowledge Foundation from 2020 to 2022, I had the privilege to design, develop, and deliver a series of open geodata training for government and non-government organizations on how to use QGIS. These events were attended by more than 200 participants from 20 countries across Asia, Africa, Europe, and Latin America. See: <a href="https://school-of-data.github.io/okf-events-a/series/open-geodata-programme/)" target="_blank">https://school-of-data.github.io/okf-events-a/series/open-geodata-programme/</a>. For the training program, I implemented and improved on an innovative two-phase training format that includes a remote mentoring phase where participants are guided by mentors on a simple QGIS/mapping project over the course of a few weeks—an approach that I've since adopted even in my own training activities. <br></div><div><br></div><div>As part of that program, I also helped develop, co-authored, and currently maintain an open source QGIS curriculum that is localized for 16 countries and available in 7 languages (Amharic, Arabic, English, German, Portuguese, Spanish, and Vietnamese). See:<a href="https://school-of-data.github.io/open-geodata-curriculum/en" target="_blank"> https://school-of-data.github.io/open-geodata-curriculum/en</a> and <a href="https://github.com/school-of-data/open-geodata-curriculum" target="_blank">https://github.com/school-of-data/open-geodata-curriculum</a></div><br>Thank you and kindly keep me in the loop.<br><br>All the best,<br><div>Ben Hur</div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>---</div><div><font face="monospace"><b><a href="https://bnhr.xyz" target="_blank">BNHR</a></b><br></font></div><div><div><font face="monospace"><a href="https://bnhr.xyz" target="_blank">bnhr.xyz</a></font></div><div><a href="mailto:hi@bnhr.xyz" style="font-family:monospace" target="_blank">hi@bnhr.xyz</a></div></div><div><br></div><div><b><span style="font-size:xx-large">BNHR</span><br></b></div><div>liberty. data. geospatial.</div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 2:16 AM Tim Sutton via QGIS-PSC <<a href="mailto:qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><div id="m_-2470183189925771277m_-557494594747611153gmail-content">
<div>Dear friends</div><div><br></div><div>Attached below are my rough notes from our BoF session on education (& certification) that we held today at the QGIS conference. Please note that this is an open discussion and not a bunch of mandates. We will groom our thoughts into a document which properly describes our plans in a more concrete way, and then ask the PSC for a mandate to continue.</div><div><br></div><div>Please feel free to pick up a discussion here in this thread if you would like more context or you would like to provide more information.</div><div><br></div><div>I have created a <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JoN8ShzLQ5sF6BEYJCiOPZMAWw5sg9l3zt5Jo7OkXjA/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">document</a> that we can use to compose our combined thoughts in a structured manner. </div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Tim</div><ul>
<li>QGIS Education Bof
<ul>
<li>Present:
<ul>
<li>Andre Mano - GIS Expert <a href="mailto:a.dasilvamano@utwente.nl" target="_blank">a.dasilvamano@utwente.nl</a></li>
<li>Kurt Menke - Certification Team - <a href="mailto:kurt@septima.dk" target="_blank">kurt@septima.dk</a></li>
<li>Yneke van Iersel -trainee at Geodan <a href="mailto:yneke.van.iersel@geodan.nl" target="_blank">yneke.van.iersel@geodan.nl</a></li>
<li>Mark Terlien - Educator <a href="mailto:m.terlien@has.nl" target="_blank">m.terlien@has.nl</a></li>
<li>Linda Angulo Lopez - Natural History Museum in Paris <a href="mailto:angulo.linda@gmail.com" target="_blank">angulo.linda@gmail.com</a></li>
<li>Marco Bernasocchi - PSC Chair <a href="mailto:marco@qgis.org" target="_blank">marco@qgis.org</a></li>
<li>David van Winsum - incompany Educator <a href="mailto:david.vanwinsum@anteagroup.nl" target="_blank">david.vanwinsum@anteagroup.nl</a></li>
<li>Marielle Geers - Educator <a href="mailto:geersplasmans@hotmail.com" target="_blank">geersplasmans@hotmail.com</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Open Science Initiative - EU funded programmes</li>
<li>Discussion point how to convince departments to adopt QGIS with or instead of ESRI</li>
<li>Needs a 'gently gently' approach rather than hard mandates</li>
<li>Internship market place - discussed idea of pair EU and e.g. SA interns</li>
<li>Possibly Erasmus funding if the partner org is in EU e.g. Kartoza EU</li>
<li>Possibly add new flavour of QGIS certificate specific for internships</li>
<li>Discussed more the idea of getting certification as a trainer rather as an org</li>
<li>Perhaps the trainer can have more specific enrollment requirement
<ul>
<li>how will we measure competency? Various options discussed:</li>
<li>language issue</li>
<li>standardised course via annointed teachers to bootstrap</li>
<li>Possible starting group of 'annointed trainers'
<ul>
<li>Giovanni</li>
<li>Ujaval</li>
<li>Hans</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Three parts to the programme:
<ul>
<li>Didactic skills</li>
<li>Technical skills</li>
<li>Ecosystem - how OS and community involvement works, release schedule</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Clear criteria for class
<ul>
<li>Marielle & Mark volunteering to help to develop didactic criteria</li>
<li>Technical skills requirements criteria developed by Giovanni</li>
<li>Ecosystem criteria - Andre Mano to develop criteria</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Certification maintenance:
<ul>
<li>How long will certification last? Criteria like minimum number of certificates to issue over a period (with system implementation to flag these automatically)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Cost for trainer certificate:
<ul>
<li>Needs to attend the training of an official train the trainer who sets the price himself for the course</li>
<li>QGIS Contribution part of the certification - price TBD</li>
<li>Big mac index pricing for certification?</li>
<li>Need to ensure we spread the grandfathered in train the traininer corps around the globe so that there is good chance to find a trainer course at an equitable fee</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Each certified org needs to have at least one certified trainer</li>
<li>Having at least one certified trainer by certified organization, however the certificates can still be issued by non-certified trainers as long as the signature of a certified trainer is also included in the certificate.
<ul>
<li></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Tim to get Dimas to implement big mac based system and train the traininer system under current QGIS funding (we have about 8 days available TBC). Other technical implementations
<ul>
<li>Platform may only issue course certificates attached to a certified trainer</li>
<li>Modify the certificates to include the :
<ul>
<li>Org logo</li>
<li>Training presenter signature (they do not need to be a certified trainer)</li>
<li></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Next steps:
<ul>
<li><b>Tim</b> to set up a requirements doc and invite all participants to share their ideas with a deadline</li>
<li>Three coordinators to lead the sections in the user facing docs on what the curriculum requirements are (and add them to the requirements doc)
<ul>
<li><b>Marielle & Mark</b> volunteering to help to develop didactic criteria</li>
<li>Technical skills requirements criteria developed by <b>Giovanni</b> (first need to chat to him)</li>
<li>Ecosystem criteria - <b>Andre Mano</b> to develop criteria</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><b>Marco:</b> List of grandfathered certifiers to be identified and agreed with PSC</li>
<li>Communicate to the broader community</li>
<li><b>Tim</b> to put Marielle in contact with Seabilwe and Bridget to share ideas on how to introduce QGIS into schools</li>
<li></li>
<li></li>
<li></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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