<div dir="auto"><div>Hi Andreas, I understand that sentence also for paid developments. If a client asks OPENGIS.ch (or any other company) to add an new QGIS feature, for us it is a commercial activity. so that formulation is really tricky. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I escalated already to OSGeo.</div><div dir="auto"><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Marco Bernasocchi<br><br>QGIS.org Chair<br>OSGeo.org Board member<br>OPENGIS.ch CEO</div><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 19 Jul 2023, 10:32 Andreas Neumann, <<a href="mailto:andreas@qgis.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">andreas@qgis.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi again,</div><div><br></div><div>Here is an excerpt from the proposed regulation (source <a href="https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:52022PC0454" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:52022PC0454</a> ):</div><div><br></div><div><i><b>(10) "
<span>In order not to hamper innovation or research, free and
open-source software developed or supplied outside the course of a
commercial activity</span><span> should not be covered by this Regulation</span><span>. This </span><span>is</span><span>
in particular the case for software, including its source code and
modified versions, that is openly shared and freely accessible, usable,
modifiable and redistributable. </span><span>In the context of software, a commercial activity might be characterized not only by charging a price for a product, but also </span><span>by charging a price for technical support services</span><span>, by provi</span><span>di</span><span>ng a software platform through which the manufacturer monetises other services, or</span><span> </span><span>by
the use of personal data for reasons other than exclusively for
improving the security, compatibility or interoperability of the
software.</span>" </b></i><br></div><div><br></div><div>So it seems to be primarily an issue for companies selling "technical support" around Open Source software - and not so much for the project itself.</div><div><br></div><div>Of course, these companies are very important for the QGIS and OSGeo ecosystem - and therefore PSC should make an effort here as well.</div><div><br></div><div>Andreas<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 at 10:25, Andreas Neumann <<a href="mailto:andreas@qgis.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">andreas@qgis.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>I wasn't aware about it - ideally, our umbrella organizations (OSGeo, FOSSGIS e.V. or counterparts in other countries, in Switzerland maybe CH-Open) could react - and not all of the individual projects separately.</div><div><br></div><div>Of course, we can do our part to support the umbrella organization - and maybe the more "user visible" and popular projects (like QGIS, PostGIS, GeoServer, MapServer, OpenLayers, etc.) could use their visibility to support the efforts of the umbrella organizations - but it should be somehow coordinated.<br></div><div><br></div><div>You, Marco, can discuss this with OSGeo - this is the link to the "steering committee" of FOSSGIS: <a href="https://fossgis.de/verein/vorstand/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://fossgis.de/verein/vorstand/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Andreas<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 at 10:06, Marco Bernasocchi via QGIS-PSC <<a href="mailto:qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hi Vincent, <div dir="auto">thanks a lot for the link. I had honestly missed this.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">does not look good at all.</div><div dir="auto">I ve also shared thid with the OSGeo board.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">and will discuss with the psc what we can do.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">cheers </div><div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto">Marco Bernasocchi<br><br>QGIS.org Chair<br>OSGeo.org Board member<br>OPENGIS.ch CEO</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 19 Jul 2023, 09:45 Vincent Picavet (ml) via QGIS-PSC, <<a href="mailto:qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi PSC,<br>
<br>
Should you not be aware already, there is an existential and urgent risk on the OpenSource ecosystem coming from the European commission, through the CRA text :<br>
<br>
<a href="https://eclipse-foundation.blog/2023/02/23/cyber-resilience-act-good-intentions-and-unintended-consequences/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://eclipse-foundation.blog/2023/02/23/cyber-resilience-act-good-intentions-and-unintended-consequences/</a><br>
<br>
Mozilla has already taken action, and publicly reacted also. So did a few other opensource organizations.<br>
<br>
Given the strong impact it may have on the OpenSource world, I think QGIS.org should :<br>
- make a public announcement / blog article / press release<br>
- directly contact MEPs to communicate about the problems raised by the current version of the text<br>
- coordinate with other OpenSource organization for actions<br>
- optionnaly, make some stronger actions ( e.g. close QGIS downloads as filezilla does, display a message on the web site, display a message on QGIS start window...)<br>
<br>
The ITRE commission is supposed to meet today, this is therefore an urgent matter. The longer we wait, the more difficult it will be to reestablish the text to an acceptable version.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Vincent<br>
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