<div dir="ltr">Hi Andreas and PSC,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for managing this budgeting stuff. </div><div><br></div><div>I saw in the spreadsheet, that there are some significant increases (e.g. 2x for contributor meetings) or some new expenses (e.g. sponsoring OSMF). I am not against the budget at all, for me it's understandable. But will there be any more detailed remarks when we do the voting? Just in case someone asks so that I can give the official answer (and not based on my own opinion).</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks :)</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 7:46 PM Andreas Neumann via QGIS-PSC <<a href="mailto:qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org">qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>Thank  you both Ale and Régis for your feedback.<br></div><div><br></div><div>As suggested from Ale, I moved 10k € from the Qt6 migration to the code reviewing.</div><div><br></div><div>We can still try to come up with more formal ways and/or ideas on how to distribute the 30k € among the active core contributors who want and can contribute to the code reviewing.</div><div><br></div><div>Régis already has formulated some thoughts on the reviewing. We can discuss this at the next PSC meeting.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Marco: can you please put up the budget proposal for voting among the voting members - so that we can have an accepted budget when starting into 2024? Thank you!</div><div><br></div><div>Greetings,</div><div>Andreas<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 at 09:00, Alessandro Pasotti <<a href="mailto:apasotti@gmail.com" target="_blank">apasotti@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Andreas,<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think my proposal probably came at the wrong time, there is no need to rush  a decision.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We can discuss it thoroughly next year.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div>But, if we wanted to implement it for 2024, I think that we should allocate a budget for at least 4 hours/week. <br></div><div><br></div><div>We could probably reduce (half?) the budget for QT6 migration because I expect that most of the work will be completed with the 2023 budget.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div>I would really like to hear what other core devs think about this proposal though, I only spoke with a few of them.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il mar 12 dic 2023, 17:48 Andreas Neumann via QGIS-PSC <<a href="mailto:qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear PSC colleagues,</div><div><br></div><div>I'd like to finalize the 2024 budget: <br></div><div>

<span style="color:rgb(27,29,34);font-family:Inter,Twemoji,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,"Noto Color Emoji";font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:-0.132px;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(27,29,34);font-family:Inter,Twemoji,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,"Noto Color Emoji";font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:-0.132px;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">The one major issue that needs discussion is the proposal from Ale to have fixed developers with fixed hours to do code and PR reviewing.</span><span style="color:rgb(27,29,34);font-family:Inter,Twemoji,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,"Noto Color Emoji";font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:-0.132px;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">
</span><span style="color:rgb(27,29,34);font-family:Inter,Twemoji,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,"Noto Color Emoji";font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:-0.132px;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">
</span><span style="color:rgb(27,29,34);font-family:Inter,Twemoji,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,"Noto Color Emoji";font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:-0.132px;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">What do the other PSC members think about this proposal?</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(27,29,34);font-family:Inter,Twemoji,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,"Noto Color Emoji";font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:-0.132px;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(27,29,34);font-family:Inter,Twemoji,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,"Noto Color Emoji";font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:-0.132px;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">What is the required budget for this? Currently, we have 20k reserved for this. Is this enough? If not, how much would we need?</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(27,29,34);font-family:Inter,Twemoji,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,"Noto Color Emoji";font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:-0.132px;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(27,29,34);font-family:Inter,Twemoji,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,"Noto Color Emoji";font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:-0.132px;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">If we would need more than 20k in the budget - what other budget items could we reduce to get a balanced out budget?<br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(27,29,34);font-family:Inter,Twemoji,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,"Noto Color Emoji";font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:-0.132px;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(27,29,34);font-family:Inter,Twemoji,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,"Noto Color Emoji";font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:-0.132px;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">See </span><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19JlXyiY8KH8gvrERVDGjcA_HWE49GwL42F__HdJnT7I/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19JlXyiY8KH8gvrERVDGjcA_HWE49GwL42F__HdJnT7I/edit?usp=sharing</a> for the current budget proposal.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for your replies,</div><div>Andreas<br></div><div>

<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br>--<br>Andreas Neumann<br></div><a href="http://QGIS.ORG" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">QGIS.ORG</a> board member (treasurer)<br></div></div></div></div>
_______________________________________________<br>
QGIS-PSC mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:QGIS-PSC@lists.osgeo.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">QGIS-PSC@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a><br>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><br><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br>--<br>Andreas Neumann<br></div><a href="http://QGIS.ORG" target="_blank">QGIS.ORG</a> board member (treasurer)<br></div></div>
_______________________________________________<br>
QGIS-PSC mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:QGIS-PSC@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">QGIS-PSC@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a><br>
</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Ismail Sunni</div><div>Software Engineer</div><div><a href="http://ismailsunni.id" target="_blank">ismailsunni.id</a><br><div><a href="http://ismailsunni.wordpress.com" target="_blank">ismailsunni.wordpress.com</a></div></div></div></div>