<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
</head>
<body>
<p>Hi all, and thanks a lot Valentin for pushing up the topic. </p>
<p>I wanted to take the task in 2025, but 2025 was not the year. </p>
<p>We already did a migration for a very small QGIS FR mailing list,
and already know this can work. There were a couple of issues
regarding the mailing list mode that didn't work fully as
expected, and regarding how topics and labels are used in osgeo's
instance. <br>
It is time to tackle those issues properly. </p>
<p>And yes, I have currently to handle 5 different email accounts,
and change a lot of mailman's discussions and am in terrible pain
maintaining all those mailing lists and finding old content. </p>
<p> On last point, mailman 2 is end of life, and osgeo choose to bet
on discourse more that mailman3, just like many projects out
there. I totally support this move obviously. I am following 3 of
such projects and use email mailing list, or weekly digests, and
am totally satisfied up to now. </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Régis</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>est regards,</p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">
Régis Haubourg
Elected member at the Program Steering Comitee of QGIS.org.
-</pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/03/2026 12:54, Marco Bernasocchi
via QGIS-PSC wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAB2ZMRD=ZsdGRm61r5iowL_ahS5D84LbW=BKBLOqGd2mH+QrHA@mail.gmail.com">
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<div dir="auto">
<div>
<div>9Hi all thanks all for the inputs here, i am also totally
on Valentin's camp on trying to get read as much as i can of
my emails. I also find ML horrendous for trying to find
something. </div>
<div dir="auto">Anyway the good thing is that discourse allows
interaction with it like if it was a mailing list.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">In fact the decision to migrate to discourse
was already taken and planned for 2025. We just had way too
much happening in the psc for taking care of this.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">The plan is to first migrate the psc ml to
learn how to efficiently do this.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">We will move to the OSGeo.org discord like
many other projects (and osgeo itself is planning) are doing
since osgeo will most likely not update mailman anymore.</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
/s/discord/discourse ;-)
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAB2ZMRD=ZsdGRm61r5iowL_ahS5D84LbW=BKBLOqGd2mH+QrHA@mail.gmail.com">
<div dir="auto">
<div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Obviously if someone is willing to help, just
get in touch.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Cheers Marco </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">Marco Bernasocchi
<div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>QGIS.org Chair<br>
OSGEO.org VP Europe<br>
OPENGIS.ch CEO</div>
</div>
<div><a href="http://berna.io" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://berna.io</a><br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 12 Mar 2026, 18:15
Denis Rouzaud via QGIS-PSC, <<a
href="mailto:qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">That'd be also a big +1 from me to go in a
more modern and welcoming way
<div>It seems the path should not be too complex: <a
href="https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/11"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/11</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Denis</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le jeu. 12 mars 2026
à 17:38, Jean Felder via QGIS-PSC <<a
href="mailto:qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">qgis-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a>>
a écrit :<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p>Hi everyone,<br>
<br>
Thanks Valentin for raising this discussion.</p>
<p>I also think migrating to Discourse is a good
idea. <br>
<br>
I had the chance to experience the migration
of the GNOME project from a mailing list to
discourse, and it was a complete success. In
particular: <br>
- It allowed many people who found subscribing
to a mailing list too complicated to join the
discussion (please, don’t try to rationalize
this. Yes, for some people, especially
newcomers, subscribing to a mailing list
really is difficult)<br>
- It created new discussions between project
developers and users. By users, I mean people
who have lots of ideas or feedback for the
project but would never have created a GitHub
account</p>
<p>For more information, here’s some feedback
from the GNOME project:</p>
<p>- <a
href="https://discourse.gnome.org/t/common-questions-re-mailman-to-discourse/11841"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://discourse.gnome.org/t/common-questions-re-mailman-to-discourse/11841</a><br>
- <a
href="https://discourse.gnome.org/t/sub-categories/11733/6?u=trim"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://discourse.gnome.org/t/sub-categories/11733/6?u=trim</a></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>I also want to point out that it’s totally
possible to use Discourse directly from an
email client. That’s one of Discourse’s
strengths. <br>
See for example:<br>
- <a
href="https://discourse.gnome.org/t/interacting-with-discourse-via-email/46"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://discourse.gnome.org/t/interacting-with-discourse-via-email/46</a><br>
- <a
href="https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/how-do-i-use-discourse-via-email/15279"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/how-do-i-use-discourse-via-email/15279</a></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Cheers,<br>
Jean</p>
</div>
<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Le 09/03/2026 à 21:17, Valentin Buira via
QGIS-PSC a écrit :<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Hi PSC,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>As per my email subject, I would like to
know more about the status of the migrating
mailing list to OSGeo discourse, as it was
announced almost two years ago on this
mailing list [1]</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>mailman is a venerable piece of software
that has served us well for the past 10
years, but the quality of life improvements
everywhere else has made mailman pale in
comparison of what a 2026 collaborative
platform could be. I think it's a good time
to study the possibility of migrating to
discourse again. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
In random order a list of defavor argument for
mailman and favor argument for discourse:
<div><br>
</div>
<div>* Answering to an email is super tedious,
I don't have a mail client installed on my
computer and I found two workaround this: </div>
<div> - use the developer tools of my
browser to find the right reply-to email. </div>
<div> - Or write the email first, then
browse from my phone the web interface for
the right mail to answer to and finally
click on it as my gmail app acts as a mail
client. </div>
<div>* No search function out of the box we
have to rely on external service like : <a
href="http://mail-archive.com"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">mail-archive.com</a> it's
fine if you have been in the project for 10
years but if you join recently there is a
loss of informations. </div>
<div>* Sometimes I want to answer a really old
topic, but I don't because I don't want to
pollute everybody else mailbox. Discourse
handles long-tail discussions more cleanly
via threading</div>
<div>* This one is a bit subjective BUT to me
the current web interface looks like a scam
website</div>
<div>* Emojis support in discourse (I think
they light up the mood sometimes ) </div>
<div>* Blender, Gnome, Mozilla, pg-routing
have all adopted it, and have not looked
back. </div>
<div>* Mobile support in discourse</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Last time the discussion came up, I feel
like the arguments were really one sided,
that's why I would like to open up the
discussion again. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I understand the concerns about
the migration, and if we don't want to dive
in right away maybe we could have an
experiment period of 6 months? Keep both
side by side, give it a try, and I am
convinced the concerns will fade quickly. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Valentin</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>[1] <a
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/2024-April/066662.html"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/2024-April/066662.html</a></div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<fieldset></fieldset>
<pre>_______________________________________________
QGIS-PSC mailing list
<a href="mailto:QGIS-PSC@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">QGIS-PSC@lists.osgeo.org</a>
<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
<p><br>
</p>
<pre cols="72">--
Jean Felder
Développeur SIG
Oslandia</pre>
</div>
_______________________________________________<br>
QGIS-PSC mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:QGIS-PSC@lists.osgeo.org"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">QGIS-PSC@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<a
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a><br>
</blockquote>
</div>
_______________________________________________<br>
QGIS-PSC mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:QGIS-PSC@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">QGIS-PSC@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<a
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a><br>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<fieldset class="moz-mime-attachment-header"></fieldset>
<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">_______________________________________________
QGIS-PSC mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:QGIS-PSC@lists.osgeo.org">QGIS-PSC@lists.osgeo.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
</body>
</html>