[Qgis-user] Re: [Qgis-developer] The plain keys for shortcuts

[John C. Tull]

This is beyond my knowledge on how these shortcuts can be set in the  
build environment, but it sounds like there needs to be a system check  
at compile time and different keyboard shortcuts should be set based  
on the OS. I think someone said this was not possible. Is that correct?

John

On Aug 21, 2009, at 2:48 AM, Milena Nowotarska wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Installed Daphnis from osgeo4w... what my eyes can see... no more
> one-finger-shortcuts? I liked them :)
> I think most users did. Unfortunatelly the new ones doesn't go well on
> windows...
>
> 2009/8/18 John C. Tull <john.tull at wildnevada.org>:
>> On Aug 18, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Borys Jurgiel wrote:
>>
>>> Dnia wtorek, 18 sierpnia 2009 o 17:34:24 napisałeś:
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps an option to turn off control key modifiers. A lack of
>>>> modifier is non-conventional to most people and it breaks OS X.  
>>>> As a
>>>> choice, that seems reasonable.
>>>
>>> Turning off modifiers would be hard to implement while the  
>>> shortcuts are
>>> configurable... Rather something like the mentioned profiles - it  
>>> sounds
>>> best
>>> for me.
>>>
>>> I know it's non-conventional for many people, but it's also  
>>> inconvenient
>>> for
>>> many others. Personally I can't imagine myself using two fingers for
>
> It is not two fingers, Borys, it is already three! Ctrl+Shift 
> +something
>
> As a windows user I need to remind you (developers) that combination
> Ctrl+Shift is a little bit dangerous cause it changes the keyboard
> settings (at least in Poland), so instead of "x" users will get "z"
> and might go dizzy. It is all because of diacritics, I must admit. Our
> fault. But we really need them :)
>
>>> adding a
>>> layer or doing other common tasks;) The same with other 'one-finger'
>>> applications, as kmail, where I'm writing from. I understand Mac  
>>> users are
>>> irritated having to adjust the shortcuts to run Grass console, but  
>>> now
>>> many
>>> (maybe more) other users, as me, will have do the same in order to  
>>> get an
>>> convenient environment :)
>>>
>>> I believe we should either implement shortcuts profiles or at  
>>> least ask
>>> users
>>> for a voting (both are infeasible before the release). The main  
>>> problem is
>>> that if we drop the one-finger shortcuts and update the  
>>> documentation now,
>>> reverting this change in the future will look strange ;) So for me  
>>> doing
>>> it
>>> just before the release is not a good idea...
>>>
>>> Anyone else is interested? :)
>>>
>>> B.
>>
>> I would just say that having a default setup that breaks  
>> functionality for a
>> key component of qgis (grass interaction) on one of the supported  
>> OS's is a
>> bad idea. Better to let people change the shortcuts to their  
>> preference
>> while providing all functionality to all users.
>
> I use Mac too, but still adjusting QGIS to one platform shouldn't make
> inconvenience to users of other platform.
>
> Before we think of other shortcut combination, having in mind short
> release of Daphnis and documentation issues, I would opt for reverting
> short shortcuts for now.
>
> Best,
> Milena