[Qgis-user] Sextante on Mac

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Sat Mar 31 15:41:05 EDT 2012


Carlos,
Did you check show experimental plugins in options ? I've been able to install it in several machines.
Best
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Agustin

Am 31/03/2012 um 19:40 schrieb qgis-user-request at lists.osgeo.org:

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>   4. Re: Closure of forum (Mats Elfstr?m)
>   5. Re: SEXTANTE for QGIS has been released (Carlos Grohmann)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:10:12 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Nick Hopton <nhopton at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Qgis-user] Closure of forum
> To: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
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> I read QGIS-User on Nabble, where the posts on the closure of the forum
> appear somehow to have got mixed up with the Sextante thread, so forgive me
> for starting a new thread.
> 
> The closure is a done deal I suppose but I think it will be harmful to QGIS.
> Forum users are now being pointed to Stack Exchange but many of them will, I
> believe, take one look at Stack Exchange and run a mile. The Stack Exchange
> GIS FAQ makes it quite clear that SE is intended for "...cartographers,
> database administrators, geographers, programmers, and anyone interested in
> or using GIS professionally."
> 
> I don't fit into any one of these categories, nor I think would many of the
> people who used to post on the forum. They tended to be newcomers to QGIS,
> or people who make maps and use GIS as just a part of their job, or as part
> of a recreational activity, or any combination of the three. Some of them
> will be young and engaged in things like school projects. It would be nice
> to think that these people will shift to SE, but I can't see this happening.
> But we'll soon be able to tell, if things work as hoped a lot of newby-type
> questions should soon start appearing on SE. It will be interesting to see
> the responses.
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:14:54 +0400
> From: Maxim Dubinin <sim at gis-lab.info>
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Re: Donations -> Knowledge mananagment
>    platform
> To: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
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>>> I'm surprised it is ignored what actual users of the forum said [0].
> 
> GS> It should be noted that only 12 people of the hundreds that used
> GS> the forum cared enough to vote. This can hardly be viewed as a consensus opinion.
> Yes, this is not very many.
> But  are  6  +1'ers here on ML more than those 12? Are they consensus?
> I  should also point out that the referred topic was closed for voting
> and comments on Oct, 2011.
> 
>>> I'm also surprised how quickly the thread 'how to make forum better' turned
>>> into 'lets  close it because we don't like it/don't want to spend time on it'.
> GS> This issue has been discussed for nearly a year in one form or another.
> And? Plans for moving? Explaining forum users that they will no longer
> have access? May be asking top 10-20 active users? Anything?
> 
> People   are  different,  they  like  different  things  and  ways  to
> communicate. Forum was not dead.
> 
> I think this was a rush decision.
> 
> Maxim
> 
>>> 
>>> I thought such decisions should at least go through PSC voting.
> 
> GS> While there was no formal vote, the members of the PSC and
> GS> community have expressed their opinion.
> 
> GS> Personally I am neutral on whether the forum lived or died. 
> 
>>> 
>>> [0] http://forum.qgis.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=9025
>>> 
>>> Maxim
>>> 
>>>> We could also close the forums and tell everyone to use gis.stackexchange
>>>> instead. That would reduce maintenance necessary on our side. It would also
>>>> increase visibility of QGIS in the eyes of ESRI folks if more QGIS
>>>> questions pop up on stackexchange.
>>>> 
>>>> Personally, I would welcome shutting down the forums since it would free
>>>> me of the repetitive work of deleting dozens of spam threads every day.
>>> 
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> GS> -gary
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 09:23:26 -0800
> From: Gary Sherman <gsherman at geoapt.com>
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Closure of forum
> To: Nick Hopton <nhopton at gmail.com>
> Cc: Gary Sherman <gsherman at geoapt.com>, qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
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> On Mar 31, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Nick Hopton wrote:
> 
>> The closure is a done deal I suppose but I think it will be harmful to QGIS.
>> Forum users are now being pointed to Stack Exchange but many of them will, I
>> believe, take one look at Stack Exchange and run a mile. 
> 
> The forum would have closed a year ago if I had not kept it running on my server. 
> 
> I think there is a large gap between the developer and user community with regard to support methods.
> 
> Some people relied on the forum solely for support. Others think our support mechanisms are fragmented and strongly dislike forums. Maybe closing it will force some useful discussion. 
> 
> -gary
> 
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Gary Sherman
> GeoApt LLC
>  http://geoapt.com
> Founder, Quantum GIS
> Chair, QGIS PSC
> Book:
>  http://geospatialdesktop.com
> "We work virtually everywhere"
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:30:52 +0200
> From: Mats Elfstr?m <mats.elfstrom at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Closure of forum
> To: Nick Hopton <nhopton at gmail.com>
> Cc: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
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> Hi!
> Start a Google Qgis group, or join the existing QGISGRASS group.
> That way all is taken care of, and no one needs to host or administer the
> thing.
> It could be fully open, or for registered users only.
> 
> Regards, Mats.E
> 
> 
> Den 31 mars 2012 19:10 skrev Nick Hopton <nhopton at gmail.com>:
> 
>> I read QGIS-User on Nabble, where the posts on the closure of the forum
>> appear somehow to have got mixed up with the Sextante thread, so forgive me
>> for starting a new thread.
>> 
>> The closure is a done deal I suppose but I think it will be harmful to
>> QGIS.
>> Forum users are now being pointed to Stack Exchange but many of them will,
>> I
>> believe, take one look at Stack Exchange and run a mile. The Stack Exchange
>> GIS FAQ makes it quite clear that SE is intended for "...cartographers,
>> database administrators, geographers, programmers, and anyone interested in
>> or using GIS professionally."
>> 
>> I don't fit into any one of these categories, nor I think would many of the
>> people who used to post on the forum. They tended to be newcomers to QGIS,
>> or people who make maps and use GIS as just a part of their job, or as part
>> of a recreational activity, or any combination of the three. Some of them
>> will be young and engaged in things like school projects. It would be nice
>> to think that these people will shift to SE, but I can't see this
>> happening.
>> But we'll soon be able to tell, if things work as hoped a lot of newby-type
>> questions should soon start appearing on SE. It will be interesting to see
>> the responses.
>> 
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/Closure-of-forum-tp4674587p4674587.html
>> Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> _______________________________________________
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> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:35:09 -0300
> From: Carlos Grohmann <carlos.grohmann at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] SEXTANTE for QGIS has been released
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> Hi, I couldn't find the sextant plugin in qgis 1.7 on mac os x. is it on http://mapserver.sk/~wonder/qgis/plugins-sandbox.xml? this repo is giving connection errors.  
> 
> best
> 
> Carlos  
> 
> --  
> Prof. Carlos Henrique Grohmann
> Institute of Geosciences - Univ. of São Paulo, Brazil
> - Digital Terrain Analysis | GIS | Remote Sensing -  
> 
> http://carlosgrohmann.com (http://carlosgrohmann.com/)
> ________________
> Can’t stop the signal.
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> On Friday, 30 March 2012 at 18:19, Victor Olaya wrote:
> 
>>> One remark / request on concerning GRASS; as the GRASS algorithms are
>>> already available through the GRASS toolbox, the main thing for me would be
>>> to enable the use of GRASS raster and vector layers in all the SAGA (and
>>> other) modules. I assume this will be part of the working version you
>>> mention?
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Well, the idea is just the opposite: to use any raster or vector layer
>> in GRASS, directly from QGIS. "Any" in this context means any "normal"
>> file-based layer. What you propose is just the opposite: to use GRASS
>> layers in other apps. This is something I plan to work on later. As I
>> mentioned in the release note, now SEXTANTE handles those "normal"
>> layers, but not others like layers from remote services, from DB
>> connections or "special" layers like GRASS ones. I hope to give
>> support for all that as well, so any layer than can be loaded into
>> QGIS can be passed to an external application transparently, with
>> SEXTANTE doing the necessary work of conversion or whatever is needed.
>> However, I will wait until this first version works fine before
>> starting that.
>> 
>> Regards
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> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 09:39:41 -0800
> From: Gary Sherman <gsherman at geoapt.com>
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] SEXTANTE for QGIS has been released
> To: Carlos Grohmann <carlos.grohmann at gmail.com>
> Cc: Gary Sherman <gsherman at geoapt.com>, qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
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> On Mar 31, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Carlos Grohmann wrote:
> 
>> Hi, I couldn't find the sextant plugin in qgis 1.7 on mac os x. is it on http://mapserver.sk/~wonder/qgis/plugins-sandbox.xml? this repo is giving connection errors.
>> 
>> best
>> 
> It is in the new plugin repository (http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/plugins.xml). You must have enabled viewing of experimental plugins in the Options tab of the plugin installer in order to see it.
> 
> 
>> Carlos
>> 
>> -- 
>> Prof. Carlos Henrique Grohmann
>> Institute of Geosciences - Univ. of S�o Paulo, Brazil
>> - Digital Terrain Analysis | GIS | Remote Sensing - 
>> 
>> http://carlosgrohmann.com
>> ________________
>> Can�t stop the signal.
>> Sent with Sparrow
>> 
>> On Friday, 30 March 2012 at 18:19, Victor Olaya wrote:
>> 
>>>> One remark / request on concerning GRASS; as the GRASS algorithms are
>>>> already available through the GRASS toolbox, the main thing for me would be
>>>> to enable the use of GRASS raster and vector layers in all the SAGA (and
>>>> other) modules. I assume this will be part of the working version you
>>>> mention?
>>> 
>>> Well, the idea is just the opposite: to use any raster or vector layer
>>> in GRASS, directly from QGIS. "Any" in this context means any "normal"
>>> file-based layer. What you propose is just the opposite: to use GRASS
>>> layers in other apps. This is something I plan to work on later. As I
>>> mentioned in the release note, now SEXTANTE handles those "normal"
>>> layers, but not others like layers from remote services, from DB
>>> connections or "special" layers like GRASS ones. I hope to give
>>> support for all that as well, so any layer than can be loaded into
>>> QGIS can be passed to an external application transparently, with
>>> SEXTANTE doing the necessary work of conversion or whatever is needed.
>>> However, I will wait until this first version works fine before
>>> starting that.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Qgis-user mailing list
>>> Qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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> -gary
> 
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> Founder, Quantum GIS
> Chair, QGIS PSC
> Book:
>  http://geospatialdesktop.com
> "We work virtually everywhere"
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