[Qgis-user] QGOS maps fort Garmin GPS

Brent Fraser bfraser at geoanalytic.com
Sun Mar 5 15:23:38 PST 2017 

Stephen,

   Based on the info from SCRD, I changed the name of Joe Smith Creek to 
Molyneux Creek.

Best Regards,
Brent Fraser

On 3/5/2017 3:41 PM, Brent Fraser wrote:
> Hey Stephan,
>
>   This discussion may belong on the OSM-Canada mailing list 
> (https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca) so others can comment.
>
>   All maps contain errors, some intentional, others by mistake, and 
> still others due to the passage of time.  The great thing about OSM is 
> you can correct them!  The OSM community holds local knowledge in very 
> high regard, and one of the basic guidelines is "If you think the data 
> is wrong, change it."  I find the quality of the data very good, 
> perhaps due to the majority of the editors have a passion for mapping.
>
>   I had a look at Joe Smith Creek in OSM.  It was imported from Canvec 
> v10 (the Fed 1:50k data), and named the same on the BC 1:20k sheet. If 
> you like, I could change the name...
>
> Best Regards,
> Brent Fraser
>
> On 3/5/2017 2:01 PM, Stephen Wandling wrote:
>> Phil,
>>
>> For a government mapping agency to have a problem, it first has to 
>> exist.  I am told that in 1992, British Columbia dismantled it's 
>> cartography department and fired all of the cartographers. I am also 
>> told that no work had been done on any of the 20K maps in the prior 
>> 10 years.  So, only the private resource extraction corporations have 
>> access to up-to-date digital data and at a price that I certainly can 
>> not afford.
>>
>> I had a look at OSM mountain biking maps last night, your second link 
>> below.  I could see that someone had probably 'walked' what they 
>> thought was Joe Smith Creek with their GPS, and extended what had 
>> been on the base map.  First, that is Molyneux creek and not Joe 
>> Smith, the base map was wrong and secondly that creek comes from a 
>> large number of forks up the mountain, so they only dealt with a 
>> small percentage of it's reach.  My immediate thought was "This is 
>> Wikipedia for Cartography!". Errors laid upon errors. No use of local 
>> knowledge or the Streams shape files available on the Regional 
>> District's site.
>>
>> That is a can of worms I am not interested in delving into.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Stephen
>>
>> On 04/03/2017 8:28 PM, Phil (The Geek) Wyatt wrote:
>>> No problems Stephen,
>>>
>>> Unfortunately many government agencies can't keep up with edits of 
>>> new tracks/trails but that is the beauty of Open Street Map. Your 
>>> contribution, by adding tracks, means that all the folks making 
>>> derivative products get the benefits. You also get the benefit of 
>>> their knowledge in the creation of products to suit your GPS. Indeed 
>>> you can even use OSM mapping as a background in QGIS so you get the 
>>> same benefits immediately.
>>>
>>> If you have some GPS files, drop me a few and I will get them loaded 
>>> for you to get you started.
>>>
>>> The Mountain bike community are quite active in some areas and have 
>>> great wiki information on tagging for trails
>>>
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mountain_biking
>>>
>>> https://openmtbmap.org/
>>>
>>> Cheers - Phil
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Stephen Wandling [mailto:swandling at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 12:14 PM
>>> To: Phil (The Geek) Wyatt
>>> Cc: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] QGOS maps fort Garmin GPS
>>>
>>> Phil,
>>>
>>> Someone suggested the same OSM approach in an off list email. Here 
>>> was my response:
>>>> I have just taken a look at OSM, and the maps there, for my area of
>>>> interest, are taken from the ancient (pre 1992) British
>>>> Columbia/Canada maps that are very incomplete and riddled with errors.
>>>> It is because there are no accurate maps of this area that I resumed
>>>> my struggles with GIS and have been making maps and having them
>>>> plotted.
>>> The areas I am creating maps for are entirely forest areas, with 
>>> streams, trails, roads, parks and that is about it.  No buildings, 
>>> streets, etc.
>>>
>>> In the last 20 years or so the mountain bikers and hikers, have put 
>>> in and documented hundreds of kilometers of trails along this 
>>> coast.  The OSM maps have a single digit percentage of what is here 
>>> now.  And many they do have have been obliterated by clear cut 
>>> logging operations.
>>>
>>> I have been making simple maps, that meet my needs, and having them 
>>> plotted at a local facility for $15 each, which is cheaper than the 
>>> incomplete/error ridden maps that one can purchase.  I use these 
>>> maps to travel through this area on foot.
>>>
>>> Now I wanted a better map for my GPS.  So far, no luck.
>>>
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>> On 04/03/2017 4:28 PM, Phil (The Geek) Wyatt wrote:
>>>> Depending on the size of the area involved and how 'custom' your maps
>>>> are likely to be you may be better off looking at solutions from OSM.
>>>> There are many sites that create files suitable for Garmin GPS
>>>>
>>>> http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/
>>>>
>>>> If the areas are small you could also create KMZ (Google Earth 
>>>> Files) and transfer them to your garmin device. These can be 
>>>> created in QGIS. Look at the plugin GarminCustomMap.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers - Phil
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Qgis-user [mailto:qgis-user-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf
>>>> Of Stephen Wandling
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 11:03 AM
>>>> To: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
>>>> Subject: [Qgis-user] QGOS maps fort Garmin GPS
>>>>
>>>> I am running QGIS 2.18.3 and am at a very early learning stage.  I 
>>>> wish to create simple maps, with 2 or 3 shape files for my Garmin 
>>>> GPSMaps 76CSx.  This map would consist of Trails and Streams shp 
>>>> files and maybe Contours.  It would also be accepted by Mapsource 
>>>> and Base Camp.
>>>>
>>>> There were some tutorials that seemed like they were what I wanted, 
>>>> but they all failed in one regard or another: 1.) They were using 
>>>> an 'ancient' version of qgis.  2.) The maps they produced worked in 
>>>> just about every Garmin GPS except the one I own.  3.) They use a 
>>>> plug-in with a disclaimer that it will demolish my data.  There 
>>>> were other issues, but my memory fails me.
>>>>
>>>> If someone out there is familiar with my situation (and possibly 
>>>> has the same GPS) and can either point me to a site I missed, or 
>>>> outline the steps for me, I would be grateful.
>>>>
>>>> [If it is easier to do in ArcMap, I have access to the ESRI software
>>>> also.]
>>>>
>>>> Please keep in mind that while I have a general idea about GIS work 
>>>> and have been making some maps, for plotting, that satisfy my 
>>>> needs, I get very lost when I am subjected to acronyms and 
>>>> technical jargon.  If is not clear and straightforward, it will 
>>>> probably be wasted on me.
>>>>
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Stephen
>>>>
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