<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434165402465_338481">While I can't help in the UK, Digital Mapping Solutions in Australia & New Zealand sell & support a council GIS system based on QGIS, mapserver & Postgis/SQL Server. They may be able to provide some comments?</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434165402465_338479"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434165402465_338480"><a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434165402465_338543" href="http://www.mapsolutions.co.nz/">http://www.mapsolutions.co.nz/</a><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434165402465_338391"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434165402465_338580">(I don't work for them, but do use them for our QGIS training.)<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434165402465_338610"><br><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434165402465_338578"><span>Brent Wood</span></div><br> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434165402465_338284" style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434165402465_338283" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434165402465_338282" dir="ltr"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434165402465_338285" size="1"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434165402465_338286" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Chris Buckmaster <chris.buckmaster@runnymede.gov.uk><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org" <qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, June 15, 2015 9:51 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Qgis-user] Local Government for QGIS<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434165402465_338321" class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv6982424574"><style>#yiv6982424574 #yiv6982424574 --
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434165402465_338322" class="yiv6982424574MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Hi All</span></div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434165402465_338327" class="yiv6982424574MsoNormal"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434165402465_338326" style="font-size:11.0pt;">Interesting discussion – I am responsible for GIS at a small local authority in the UK; we are an ESRI site but I have seen just how far FOSS4G has come in
the last couple of years and have now had a proposal accepted to look at migrating our ESRI infrastructure over to PostGIS / QGIS / OpenLayers over the next year. I’ve been impressed at how efficient FOSS is, and particularly for us where we don’t deal with
advanced analytics etc, for the tools we need FOSS can provide these just as well, if not better in some cases than proprietary offerings.</span></div>
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software?</span></div>
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[mailto:qgis-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andreas Neumann<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> 15 June 2015 10:39<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> Micha Silver; qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org<br clear="none">
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Thanks again for your response. I will discuss this with the devs and will probably come up with a proposal, asking for some organizations to join the funding.<br clear="none">
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Thanks for your response.<br clear="none">
I'm quite sure that for most regional councils here, DXF would not be enough. The surveyors and planners that we work with all use Autodesk products. All their work is delivered in dwg, and some do not even know that there is such a thing as DXF.<br clear="none">
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I have not been following the Open Design Alliance lately, but including that library QGIS would certainly be a quantum leap forward. After Radim's success in crowd funding the implementation of GRASS 7, your suggestion indeed sounds feasible.<br clear="none">
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On 6/15/2015 10:28 AM, Andreas Neumann wrote:</div>
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That is interesting - we invested a lot in the DXF export capabilities of QGIS. Once this is finished I am pretty sure we will also look to improve the situation regarding the import.<br clear="none">
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Do you think import of DXF is enough or do we also need DWG support? If so, the best bet would probably be the Teigha library from the Open Design Alliance (<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.opendesign.com/the_oda_platform/Teigha">https://www.opendesign.com/the_oda_platform/Teigha</a>),
which isn't available for free - but it is the library most other GIS (eg. ESRI, Intergraph) and CAD (eg. Bentley, Bricscad, etc.) are using. We would have to pay a membership fee, but it allows us to redistribute the library with the software. Membership
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What are your thoughts on this? Would you also be available to help with a crowd-funding effort? Do you see options besides Teigha?<br clear="none">
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>From our point of view, we need support for dwg. That side of vendor lock-in is, unfortunately, even stronger that the ties to ESRI. So we stay with Arc* not because of the GIS capabilites, but more or less only because of the ability to read Autocad plans
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