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    Hi Luca,<br>
    <br>
    You can find the images also in the online archives of the mailing
    list:<br>
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    (scroll down to the bottom).<br>
    <br>
    The issue with ArcGIS is that only a very small fraction of the devs
    and users has access to ArcGIS - so unless you can point to some
    public document that explains an issue or function (e.g. online
    version of ArcGIS documentation) there is not much value in pointing
    us to "the way ArcGIS" does it.<br>
    <br>
    Greetings,<br>
    Andreas<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 20.06.2015 23:54, Luca Galuppini
      wrote:<br>
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        <div>Dear Andreas,<br>
          <br>
          thank you for your hint, i just need to get used to a
          different environment. i didn't mean to make comparisons
          between arcgis and qgis, i know what are the differences
          between an open source project and a commercial software and
          i'm sorry if it sounded "bad", but really, the arcgis thing
          was only for better explaining what i meant and i hoped
          someone answered "yes, qgis has that function, just download
          this plugin / click on that small icon". anyway, the
          categorization function in the symbology section is almost
          identical to arcgis, that's why i expected something similar
          also in the labelling section!<br>
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        that said, do you have a link for your attachments? i cant see
        them as i'm reading in digest mode<br>
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                   1. Re: labelling by attribute (James Keener)<br>
                   2. Re: labelling by attribute (Andreas Neumann)<br>
                   3. Re: labelling by attribute (James Keener)<br>
                   4. shapefile (Chandler Coleman)<br>
                   5. Re: shapefile (Nicolas Cadieux)<br>
                   6. Table output from QGIS graphical modeler (Dominik
                Abrah?m)<br>
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                Message: 1<br>
                Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 11:10:53 -0400<br>
                From: James Keener <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:jim@jimkeener.com">jim@jimkeener.com</a>><br>
                To: Andreas Neumann <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:a.neumann@carto.net">a.neumann@carto.net</a>>,
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                Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] labelling by attribute<br>
                Message-ID: <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                > 0.00xx percent of what ESRI has available in its
                budget.<br>
                <br>
                And have an amazing piece of software to show for it!<br>
                <br>
                > However, I agree with you, that rule-based or
                categorized labels would<br>
                > be very useful to have in QGIS. In fact we know
                this for a long time<br>
                > already - since version 2.0 people have asked for
                it. But - it is quite<br>
                > a lot of work to implement. If you need this,
                consider sponsoring it or<br>
                > start a crowd-funding initiative.<br>
                <br>
                There was talk in another email thread about doing
                something similar for<br>
                AutoCAD support.<br>
                <br>
                In all seriousness, what would be the process of doing
                this?  Has this<br>
                been done for any other QGIS features?  Who would be
                paid? OSG, specific<br>
                developers?  Who would we talk to about something like
                this?<br>
                <br>
                Jim<br>
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                Message: 2<br>
                Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 17:25:44 +0200<br>
                From: Andreas Neumann <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:a.neumann@carto.net">a.neumann@carto.net</a>><br>
                To: James Keener <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:jim@jimkeener.com">jim@jimkeener.com</a>>,
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                Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] labelling by attribute<br>
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                Hi Jim,<br>
                <br>
                On 20.06.2015 17:10, James Keener wrote:<br>
                >> 0.00xx percent of what ESRI has available in
                its budget.<br>
                > And have an amazing piece of software to show for
                it!<br>
                <br>
                Thanks ;-) we try our best.<br>
                >> However, I agree with you, that rule-based or
                categorized labels would<br>
                >> be very useful to have in QGIS. In fact we know
                this for a long time<br>
                >> already - since version 2.0 people have asked
                for it. But - it is quite<br>
                >> a lot of work to implement. If you need this,
                consider sponsoring it or<br>
                >> start a crowd-funding initiative.<br>
                > There was talk in another email thread about doing
                something similar for<br>
                > AutoCAD support.<br>
                <br>
                Yes - I will start working on a requirements document
                soon. I will post<br>
                it on Google Docs so different people/organizations can
                contribute. In<br>
                the case of DXF/DWG, J?rgen Fischer of company Norbit
                will be able to<br>
                work on it. He also partially did the DXF export and
                knows the DXF<br>
                format quite well. For the import we will probably use a
                library called<br>
                Teigha - the same library also used by ESRI, Bricscad,
                Intergraph and<br>
                many others. We will have to join the OpenDesignAlliance
                to get access<br>
                to this library and pay a yearly membership fee - we
                still have to<br>
                investigate which level of membership we need as an open
                source project.<br>
                It is clear that the DWG import is harder than the DXF
                export, but the<br>
                Teigha library will help a lot.<br>
                <br>
                > In all seriousness, what would be the process of
                doing this?  Has this<br>
                > been done for any other QGIS features?  Who would
                be paid? OSG, specific<br>
                > developers?  Who would we talk to about something
                like this?<br>
                <br>
                yes - absolutely - it has been done before. Maybe 2/3 of
                the recent new<br>
                features were introduced because of paid development,
                and there has been<br>
                some co-financed and/or crowd-funded development
                efforts. As an example,<br>
                the DXF export was funded by 3 Swiss communities, the
                database relations<br>
                and nested forms had been paid by some Swiss
                organizations. Many other,<br>
                mostly middle-european local governments (e.g. Tuscany,
                french ministry<br>
                of environment, Agence de l'eau Garonne, Province of
                Vorarlberg<br>
                (Austria) ...) have contributed and funded as well.<br>
                <br>
                Recently, there have been two successful crowd-funding
                initiatives:<br>
                <br>
                * QGIS GRASS Plugin Upgrade Crowdfunding:<br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.gissula.eu/qgis-grass-plugin-crowdfunding/"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.gissula.eu/qgis-grass-plugin-crowdfunding/</a><br>
                * QGIS live layer effects:<br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/41633306/a-christmas-gift-for-qgis-live-layer-effects-for-q"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/41633306/a-christmas-gift-for-qgis-live-layer-effects-for-q</a><br>
                <br>
                The QGIS PSC will invest some efforts to help such crowd
                funding<br>
                initiatives and make them more visible on our website,
                mailing lists and<br>
                social media.<br>
                <br>
                Besides the DWG import crowd funding effort, Nyall
                Dawson also plans to<br>
                soon introduce a funding effort for print composer
                rewrite/improvements<br>
                and a new reporting framework.<br>
                <br>
                Andreas<br>
                <br>
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                Message: 3<br>
                Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 11:45:51 -0400<br>
                From: James Keener <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:jim@jimkeener.com">jim@jimkeener.com</a>><br>
                To: Andreas Neumann <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:a.neumann@carto.net">a.neumann@carto.net</a>>,
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org">qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] labelling by attribute<br>
                Message-ID: <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                >>> 0.00xx percent of what ESRI has available
                in its budget.<br>
                >> And have an amazing piece of software to show
                for it!<br>
                ><br>
                > Thanks we try our best.<br>
                <br>
                But seriously, I've shown people who've only used Arc
                QGIS and they love<br>
                it!  They find the interface easier to understand and
                use, and some of<br>
                them also really latch onto the idea of it being F/OSS
                (beer AND<br>
                speech)!  I only hope that at some point I have enough
                that I can give<br>
                back.  QGIS is amazing and may be in the process of
                changing the flow of<br>
                my life (more on that in a few months if this works
                ::fingers crossed::).<br>
                <br>
                > For the import we will probably use a library
                called<br>
                > Teigha - the same library also used by ESRI,
                Bricscad, Intergraph and<br>
                > many others. We will have to join the
                OpenDesignAlliance to get access<br>
                > to this library and pay a yearly membership fee -
                we still have to<br>
                > investigate which level of membership we need as an
                open source project.<br>
                > It is clear that the DWG import is harder than the
                DXF export, but the<br>
                > Teigha library will help a lot.<br>
                <br>
                Not to argue, since I'm not the one doing the work (and
                it's a feature<br>
                that could help me out a bit!), but how does this mesh
                with GPLv2 and<br>
                the goal of being a F/OSS platform?<br>
                <br>
                >> In all seriousness, what would be the process
                of doing this?  Has this<br>
                >> been done for any other QGIS features?  Who
                would be paid? OSG, specific<br>
                >> developers?  Who would we talk to about
                something like this?<br>
                ><br>
                > yes - absolutely - it has been done before. Maybe
                2/3 of the recent new<br>
                > features were introduced because of paid
                development, and there has been<br>
                > some co-financed and/or crowd-funded development
                efforts.<br>
                <br>
                What's the process for going about this?  Let's say I
                want to start a<br>
                crowd funding campaign or fund a specific project. 
                Would I contact the<br>
                PSC and hash out the feasibility and funding
                requirements?<br>
                <br>
                Jim<br>
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                Message: 4<br>
                Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 10:00:15 -0600<br>
                From: Chandler Coleman <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:chandcole@gmail.com">chandcole@gmail.com</a>><br>
                To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                Subject: [Qgis-user] shapefile<br>
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                HI,<br>
                I have a shapefile that shows up in a project.  But whne
                I open it into<br>
                another project it doesn't show up. In another instance
                I had a shapefile<br>
                that I opened an it showed up, but was so extremely
                larger then what it<br>
                should have been.  I know this is a CRS issue, but not
                sure how to correct.<br>
                Suggestions?<br>
                Thanks,<br>
                Chandler<br>
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                Message: 5<br>
                Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 10:12:35 -0700 (PDT)<br>
                From: Nicolas Cadieux <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:nicolas.cadieux@archeotec.ca">nicolas.cadieux@archeotec.ca</a>><br>
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                Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] shapefile<br>
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                Hi,<br>
                In your QGIS option, make sure CRS on the fly is
                activated. Also make sure that the "what to do if file
                has no CRS" is set to "ask" so that QGIS does not assume
                the projection is the project projection or a default
                CRS.<br>
                Once the file is open, if the file has no CRS (prj
                file,), QGIS will ask for a projection.  At this point,
                you will need to add one.  If you are not sure, you can
                try something logical like a local CRS. (Informed
                guess).   Zoom to layer extent and see if you are in the
                right spot.&nbsp;  If not, you can right click on
                the layer and change the CRS and then zoom to extent
                again. Look at the x and y.  Are you in meters or
                long\lat??? That will help guessing. If you find the
                right CRS, you can save the file with the new or
                corrected prj file in the "save as".<br>
                Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc.<br>
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                        HI, I have a shapefile that shows up in a
                project.? But whne I open it into another project it
                doesn&#39;t show up. In another instance I had a
                shapefile that I opened an it showed up, but was so
                extremely larger then what it should have been.? I know
                this is a CRS issue, but not sure how to correct.
                Suggestions? Thanks, Chandler<br>
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                Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 20:31:04 +0200<br>
                From: Dominik Abrah?m <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                Subject: [Qgis-user] Table output from QGIS graphical
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                Hi,<br>
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                I have developed my own model, which processes input
                vector layer. The<br>
                final output is vector layer that contains many
                attribute fields, and of<br>
                course, also the geometry, but I need a simpler output -
                geometry and most<br>
                of those fields are unnecessary. With this model, how
                can I get a simple<br>
                table output with selected attribute fields of the
                output layer?<br>
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                Thanks for any advice.<br>
                Dominik<br>
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