<html>
  <head>
    <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
  </head>
  <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    The standalone is too important to new inexperienced users. The
    people I met and teach this software too generally get confused by
    the OSGEO4W installer. I know it's not that hard to grasp - but it's
    different enough. I encourage use of the OSGEO4W installer - but the
    standalone wins almost every time for them. <br>
    <br>
    Has their ever been given thought to a unified installer - I hate to
    even type that because of the implications given the wide range of
    platforms QGIS successfully runs on. <br>
    <br>
    I have sitting before me two operating systems (ubuntu, windows,
    (technically Mint 17 for a third)) and three ways to install QGIS
    that leave with me three different versions of the software: 2.8.1
    (ubuntugis), 2.8.2 (QGIS repo), 2.10/2.8.2 (osgeo4w). <br>
    <br>
    Randy<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/17/2015 04:17 AM, Nathan Woodrow
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAAi8Yg-U8OSfX7VMjTMJqSPqMG9jXcUNF4hJbEUXXFGXfSs7rA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <p dir="ltr">The standalone is the same package as the osgeo4w
        one. Same layout same software. </p>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr">On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 6:15 pm Richard McDonnell
          <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:richard.mcdonnell@opw.ie">richard.mcdonnell@opw.ie</a>>
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> +1 to the idea of
            dumping the standalone, I don't think it ads any
            functionality, only confusion!!</div>
          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><br>
            <br>
            <div>On 16/07/2015 19:46, Anita Graser wrote:<br>
            </div>
          </div>
          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <div dir="ltr">
                <div class="gmail_extra">
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 6:48
                    PM, Werner Macho <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:werner.macho@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank">werner.macho@gmail.com</a>></span>
                    wrote: </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <div dir="ltr">
                <div class="gmail_extra">
                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Open-Source-Rawkonverter-Darktabl%0Ae-Windows-Version-scheitert-an-mangelnder-Initiative-2750592.html"
                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Open-Source-Rawkonverter-Darktabl<br>
e-Windows-Version-scheitert-an-mangelnder-Initiative-2750592.html</a></blockquote>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <div dir="ltr">
                <div class="gmail_extra">
                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
                      <br>
                      I fully agree with them.<br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <div dir="ltr">
                <div class="gmail_extra">
                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div class="gmail_default"
                        style="font-size:small;display:inline">​+1</div>
                    </div>
                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">​
                      ​</div>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <div class="gmail_default"
                        style="font-size:small;display:inline">​ </div>
                      people using windows should<br>
                      actually try make the update on windows "smoother"
                      (isnt it already<br>
                      nice with OSGEO4W?)</blockquote>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div class="gmail_default"
                        style="font-size:small;display:inline">​I run
                        QGIS on Win7+8 wit OSGeo4W and on Ubuntu. In my
                        opinion, the Windows solution is almost easier
                        to handle that the repos on Ubuntu. Thanks
                        Jürgen and whoever else is involved!</div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div class="gmail_default"
                        style="font-size:small;display:inline"><br>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div class="gmail_default"
                        style="font-size:small;display:inline">I might
                        even go as far as say that it might be worth
                        considering dumping the stand-alone installer if
                        it causes more issues than it's worth.</div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div class="gmail_default"
                        style="font-size:small;display:inline"><br>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div class="gmail_default"
                        style="font-size:small;display:inline">Best
                        wishes,</div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div class="gmail_default"
                        style="font-size:small;display:inline">Anita</div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div class="gmail_default"
                        style="font-size:small;display:inline"><br>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div class="gmail_default"
                        style="font-size:small;display:inline">​</div>
                       </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <br>
            <div style="font-family:Arial;font-size:8pt">
              OPW - Ag féachaint don am atá le teacht - Ag caomhnú ón am
              atá thart<br>
              OPW - Looking to the future - Caring for the past<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.opw.ie/"
                target="_blank"><img moz-do-not-send="true"
                  src="http://www.opw.ie/en/media/opw-email-banner.png"
                  height="76" width="494"></a><br>
              Email Disclaimer: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.opw.ie/en/disclaimer/" target="_blank">http://www.opw.ie/en/disclaimer/</a>
            </div>
          </div>
          _______________________________________________<br>
          Qgis-user mailing list<br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user</a></blockquote>
      </div>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
      <br>
      <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
Qgis-user mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org">Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user</a></pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
-----------------
Randal Hale
North River Geographic Systems, Inc
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.northrivergeographic.com">http://www.northrivergeographic.com</a>
423.653.3611 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rjhale@northrivergeographic.com">rjhale@northrivergeographic.com</a>
twitter:rjhale     <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://about.me/rjhale">http://about.me/rjhale</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.northrivergeographic.com/introduction-to-quantum-gis">http://www.northrivergeographic.com/introduction-to-quantum-gis</a>
Southeast OSGEO: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Southeast_US">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Southeast_US</a></pre>
  </body>
</html>