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    <p>Hi Carlos:</p>
    I georeferenced 2 screen shots of your maps and obtained good
    results.  I would have a close look at the coordinates of your
    ground control points and make sure you selected the utm grid
    intersection as a control point versus the corner of the mapsheet
    which is a lat/long grid. It is easy to make a simple mistake<br>
    <br>
    Kirk<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/17/2018 8:53 PM, Carlos Henrique
      Grohmann de Carvalho wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Thanks for the input Nicolas
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        <div>These are official maps so the utm grid is ok. I figured
          that I was using a linear transformation, with the option to
          just create the world file, which works for control points at
          the corners (lat/long), since the boundaries of the map is
          defined by latitude/longitude. With UTM, this simple
          transformation won't work, but TPS will give the correct
          results.</div>
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        <div>Carlos</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 7:28 PM,
          Nicolas Cadieux <span dir="ltr"><<a
              href="mailto:nicolas.cadieux@archeotec.ca" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true">nicolas.cadieux@archeotec.ca</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div>Hi,</div>
              <div>The utm grid is way off or we have the wrong epsg
                code.  If you geofence using 2 points (linear algo)
                 using a service like google earth, you will see the
                distortion.  The long lat coordinate are probably ok but
                I did not test them.</div>
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              <div>You can either use the long lat or use more points. 
                With 4 points and using the thin plate spline, I got
                good results.</div>
              <span class="HOEnZb">
                <div>Nicolas</div>
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                    Le 17 mai 2018 à 12:42, Carlos Henrique Grohmann de
                    Carvalho <<a
                      href="mailto:carlos.grohmann@gmail.com"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">carlos.grohmann@gmail.com</a>>
                    a écrit :<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr">Thanks Nicolas, but the
                        misalignment still persists. OTF is off, project
                        has same CRS as data (epsg 29192). There is a
                        ~400m difference in the N-S direction.
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                        <div>Carlos</div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 17, 2018
                            at 1:28 PM, Nicolas Cadieux <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:nicolas.cadieux@archeotec.ca" target="_blank"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">nicolas.cadieux@archeotec.ca</a>></span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                              <div dir="auto">
                                <div>Hi,</div>
                                <div>Disable projection on the fly. 
                                  Make sure the project is in the same
                                  CRS as your maps.</div>
                                <div>Nicolas</div>
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                                      Le 17 mai 2018 à 12:14, Carlos
                                      Henrique Grohmann de Carvalho <<a
href="mailto:carlos.grohmann@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">carlos.grohmann@gmail.com</a>>
                                      a écrit :<br>
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                                        <div dir="ltr"><span>Hello all</span>
                                          <div><br>
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                                          <div>I have two pngs of
                                            topographic maps from
                                            southeastern Brazil (a zip
                                            file with images and points
                                            is available here: <a
                                              href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/mexeh4be46pgsk6/images_georef.zip?dl=0"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.dropbox.com/<wbr>s/mexeh4be46pgsk6/images_geore<wbr>f.zip?dl=0</a>)</div>
                                          <div><br>
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                                          <div>I'm trying to
                                            georeference them, but with
                                            partial success only. In
                                            this image (<a
                                              href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/37xxqp4fkwpdyqh/utm_error.png?dl=0"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.dropbox.com/s/37x<wbr>xqp4fkwpdyqh/utm_error.png?dl=<wbr>0</a>)
                                            you can see that the X
                                            coordinate is fine, but the
                                            Y coordinate of the two maps
                                            won't match.</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Both maps use South
                                            American Datum 1969. I
                                            selected points near the
                                            edges, and used the UTM
                                            values. </div>
                                          <div><br>
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                                          <div>Interestingly, if I use
                                            Lat/Long, and place the
                                            points at the corners, using
                                            decimal degrees, the maps
                                            align perfectly.</div>
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                                          <div>Any help is appreciated</div>
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                                            <div dir="ltr">Prof. Carlos
                                              Henrique Grohmann<br>
                                              Institute of Energy and
                                              Environment - Univ. of São
                                              Paulo, Brazil
                                              <div>- Digital Terrain
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                                                <div>________________<br>
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                              Institute of Energy and Environment -
                              Univ. of São Paulo, Brazil
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            Institute of Energy and Environment - Univ. of São Paulo,
            Brazil
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