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    <p>The Windows version of Qgis allows you to run multiple versions
      on your computer side by side. I personally haven't used the
      Windows version for several years so I can't be sure if you will
      have any issues running 3.0 alongside your current version. I run
      many of the editions I have in virtual machines. If your PC has 8
      GB or more of memory, or if you have access to another computer
      that can run Linux, then you can try it out in a Linux virtual
      machine or physical computer environment without disturbing your
      current installation.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/06/18 07:38, Springfield Harrison
      wrote:<br>
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      <p dir="ltr"> hello Patrick, thanks for your ideas. I will try the
        no plugins option.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">The program will run with no project loaded and it
        will run older project files but has problems with newer ones
        for the same project.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">I can load an older project file and then add newer
        layers to it and reconfigure them, Etc. This is very tedious but
        will amount to a recovery. It is better than starting from
        scratch for sure. But will the same problem reoccur?</p>
      <p dir="ltr">I have contemplated migrating to version 3 but I'm
        always leery of upgrades of anything as they often bring
        problems with them. In this list I notice many references to
        installation issues and things not running. 2.10 is a devil I
        know.</p>
      <p dir="ltr"> can I expect any difficulties installing 3.0 +?</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Cheers . . . . .   Spring<br>
        Samsung Tab 4</p>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 7, 2018 1:30 AM, "Patrick Dunford"
        <<a href="mailto:enzedrailmaps@gmail.com"
          moz-do-not-send="true">enzedrailmaps@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br
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            <p>Thre are a number of troubleshooting steps to try out</p>
            <p>1. Start up qgis using the -noplugins switch or remove
              all installed plugins or test removing one at a time.</p>
            <p>2. Backup the config file and start with a new empty
              config.</p>
            <p>Qgis 2.10 is well out of support, is there any reason you
              can't migrate to 3.0?<br>
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            <div class="m_2489503415050118869moz-cite-prefix">On
              07/06/18 18:28, Springfield Harrison wrote:<br>
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              <p dir="ltr"> hello Phil,</p>
              <p dir="ltr"> I did open the project file in Word, 2033
                pages, and found 13 instances referring to the dxf file.
                Hard to say if anything was wrong there, nothing
                obvious. At least to me. Some other research I did
                indicates that maybe there is an authentication problem,
                not sure just what that boils down to.</p>
              <p dir="ltr">I don't think the dxf file is the problem. I
                renamed it and bypassed it on the startup routine which
                the program accepted but it still seized up with a
                spinning cursor. Some things still function, such as
                modifying the properties of a layer , Etc. But the
                screen is blank and nothing can be saved.</p>
              <p dir="ltr">For some time I have noticed that loading a
                project file bogs down for a while and then would resume
                to completion. Now it bogs down and blows up. The key
                message seems to be unknown exception.</p>
              <p dir="ltr">Some older project files do load successfully
                however...</p>
              <p dir="ltr">Cheers . . . . .   Spring<br>
                Samsung Tab 4</p>
              <div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 6, 2018 11:15 PM, "Phil
                Wyatt" <<a href="mailto:phil@wyatt-family.com"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">phil@wyatt-family.com</a>>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Can
                          you open a copy of the previous project file
                          in something like notepad and see if anything
                          obvious can be fixed and or removed in
                          relation to the DXF layer?</span></p>
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                                lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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                              lang="EN-US"> Qgis-user [mailto:<a
                                href="mailto:qgis-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">qgis-user-bounces@list<wbr>s.osgeo.org</a>]
                              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Springfield Harrison<br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 7 June 2018 1:36 PM<br>
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                              <b>Subject:</b> [Qgis-user] Unable to load
                              project</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Hello All,<br>
                          <br>
                          Bad News.  I am unable to load a project that
                          normally works with no problems:</p>
                        <ol start="1" type="1">
                          <li class="MsoNormal">QGIS 2.10.1, Windows 7.</li>
                          <li class="MsoNormal">Project starts to load,
                            loads many layers . . .</li>
                          <li class="MsoNormal">halts loading "point
                            Entity", a DXF file</li>
                          <li class="MsoNormal">the DXF file was renamed
                            to trigger the Handle Bad Layers service</li>
                          <li class="MsoNormal">this was bypassed but
                            project loading still fails to complete,
                            cursor spinner on constantly</li>
                          <li class="MsoNormal">exiting with Save
                            triggers "Unknown Exception"</li>
                          <li class="MsoNormal">the project file is
                            trashed to 0kb</li>
                          <li class="MsoNormal">Exiting without Save is
                            OK but no project can be loaded</li>
                          <li class="MsoNormal">Restoring previous
                            project file versions yields the same
                            results</li>
                          <li class="MsoNormal">Loading some other
                            projects works but may have cursor spinner</li>
                        </ol>
                        <p>Any ideas what is going on here?  I have
                          rebooted the computer.</p>
                        <p>Thanks very much . . . .</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Cheers . . . . .
                            Springfield Harrison</p>
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