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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="T_Default_Reply"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi!<br>
A question related to this. </span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I have set up a PostGIS structure with tables, rules, views, triggers and constraints. To this there is a QGIS project with styling,
forms, relations and so on. If I want to make a file based version of this for testing, working copies, versions, distribution etc. where do I put the database logic? Could it fit in a file based database or virtual layers? Which strategy is the best? Any
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book","sans-serif";color:black">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book","sans-serif";color:black">Karl-Magnus Jönsson</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book","sans-serif";color:black">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Från:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Qgis-user [mailto:qgis-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]
<b>För </b>Bo Victor Thomsen<br>
<b>Skickat:</b> den 13 september 2018 22:40<br>
<b>Till:</b> qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b>Ämne:</b> Re: [Qgis-user] Geopagkage and "geom" in DBmanager<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ok, after some googling, I have a glimmer of understanding of the (technical and personal) issues. Enough said about that... <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So technically, GPKG support in QGIS is a hybrid of a "simple" GPKG implementation bundled/merged with the spatialite sqlite-extension incl. conversion functions, so you can convert the GPKG binary object to and fro a spatialite ditto -
when you have to use som spatialite-specific functionality like spatial SQL, projection support and so on ? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(If there is a web page somewhere that explains this in detail, i'll respecfully redraw my questions and do some RTFM)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bo Victor Thomsen<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Den tor. 13. sep. 2018 kl. 16.00 skrev Luigi Pirelli <<a href="mailto:luipir@gmail.com">luipir@gmail.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">you should look into the history of the gpkg format definition vs spatialite format adoption. Nothing related with QGIS, or gdal or etc etc<br clear="all">
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 14:30, Bo Victor Thomsen <<a href="mailto:bo.victor.thomsen@gmail.com" target="_blank">bo.victor.thomsen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black">Ok.. From the Spatialite 4.2.0 wiki:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><b><i><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">CastAutomagic()</span></i></b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">: will indifferently accept both GPKG
and SpatiaLite BLOB Geometries, then returning anyway a SpatiaLite's own BLOB Geometry.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black">I can confirm, that using the "CastAutomagic(geom)" function instead of the simple field "geom" will get the st_area and other ogc functions in the QGIS Databasemanager
Dataprovider for GeoPackage to work. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black">That means that the geopackage binary format for geometry is incompatible with the underlying spatialite spatial system and functions. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black">This is
<b>not</b> the most helpful and thoughtful user oriented solution I've encountered ... Or should I have RTFM somewhere in the QGIS.org site ? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black">However it does work. Thanks for the tip </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Den tor. 13. sep. 2018 kl. 13.20 skrev Jean-Baptiste Desbas <<a href="mailto:jb.desbas@gmail.com" target="_blank">jb.desbas@gmail.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have to use <b>st_area(CastAutomagic(geom)) </b>instead of
<b>st_area(geom)</b>, otherwise null column is retourned. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Le jeu. 13 sept. 2018 à 11:45, Bo Victor Thomsen <<a href="mailto:bo.victor.thomsen@gmail.com" target="_blank">bo.victor.thomsen@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Lene -<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've made a few observations regarding the use of GeoPackage in DBManager...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have a <i>GeoPackage</i> based table called "renhold" containing polygons. Primary key column is an integer called "fid" and the geometry column is called "geom" - It's pretty close to your setup<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If I use the <i>DBManager</i> with the <i>GeoPackage </i>dataprovider and execute the following statement:
<b>select fid, st_area (geom) from renhold , </b>it returns a table with 2 columns as expected. However , column nr. 2 contains only nulls. However, the statement does not result in an error. The function "st_area" simply doesn't return a value besides null.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">An now the mystery!! :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If I use the <i>DBManager</i> with the <i>Virtual Layers -> Project layers </i>dataprovider and execute the following statement: <b>select fid, st_area (geometry) from renhold , </b>it returns a table with 2 columns as expected. And column
nr. 2 do contain the expected area values. Go figure...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">NB! The "renhold" layer is visible in the map and named "renhold" <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">NBB! In the <i>Virtual Layers</i> dataprovider you have to use the standard name "geometry" to represent the geometry column - not the real column name ("geom" in this case)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Actually I have a reasonable explanation: The 2 different dataproviders uses different internal functions to calculate the area. However the function used by the GeoPackage Dataprovider doesn't work !<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bo Victor Thomsen<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">LIFA Denamrk<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Den tor. 13. sep. 2018 kl. 09.27 skrev Alexandre Neto <<a href="mailto:senhor.neto@gmail.com" target="_blank">senhor.neto@gmail.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Lee, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Can you try removing the quotation marks around geom? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Alex Neto<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A qui, 13/09/2018, 02:04, Lene Fischer <<a href="mailto:lfi@ign.ku.dk" target="_blank">lfi@ign.ku.dk</a>> escreveu:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Trying out a geopackage layer in DBManager asking a simple SQL statement st_area<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">But when I try to write a statement like this<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">SELECT "vandopland".* , st_area("vandopland"."geom") as areal_m2<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> "geom" is not found. Suggestions as geomfromexifgpsblob or geomfromfgf or geomfromwkb . Then I get "an error occured"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Any suggestions what I might have done wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Regards from a newbee Geopagkace/DBmanager<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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