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<p class="MsoNormal">11 responses about how I should contribute more, how my problem was posted, how I can give money…<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Not one suggestion for how to fix the issue. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">In F,L&T,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Stace Maples <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Stanford Geospatial Center<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">@mapninja <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">214.641.0920<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">"I have a map of the United States... actual size. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile." <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I spent last summer folding it." <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">William Kyngesburye <woklist@kyngchaos.com><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>William Kyngesburye <kyngchaos@kyngchaos.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 6:28 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"Mr. Stace D Maples" <stacemaples@stanford.edu><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Qgis-user <qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't install GRASS properly, ... 'sigh...'<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don't know why you're saying not having a working installer with GRASS, the last few versions have been working as far as I know, I haven't heard of any problems recently. Yes, this one was broken, now there is a new version to download
that is fixed (and shouold stay fixed in the future, for this specific problem). Really, a polite "GRASS is not working, it's doing this, or not doing that" on the mailing list, or better a bug report, is all that's needed.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Oct 31, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Mr. Stace D Maples <<a href="mailto:stacemaples@stanford.edu">stacemaples@stanford.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Seriously, we just can’t get a working installer for macOS? It’s just never gonna happen, is that it? I’d love to be able to teach QGIS alongside Esri, but I can tell people to use something that doesn’t work, out of the box. I’ve been
trying for 2 days now to get back to a working copy of QGIS3. It’s my fault, of course. I know better than to upgrade, now. If you aren’t going to test it properly, don’t release it.<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here is what I get when running GRASS tools:<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#EFF0F1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#EFF0F1"> Starting GRASS GIS...</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#EFF0F1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#EFF0F1"> Starting GRASS GIS...</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I read the ReadMe and followed the instructions<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I’ve added the ENV variables<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I’ve scrubbed everything and done a clean install (several times)<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I even tried the futile installation of the GRASS “required frameworks” which seem to be the only solutions anyone is able to suggest on StackExchange.<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes I tried installing GRASS on it’s own and pointing to it from the processing settings, which didn’t work.<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Perfectly open to suggestions that DON’T involve any of the above.<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">In F,L&T,</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Stace Maples </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Geospatial Manager </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Stanford Geospatial Center</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">@mapninja </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">214.641.0920</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Find GeoData:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://earthworks.stanford.edu/"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://earthworks.stanford.edu</span></a> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Get GeoHelp:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://gis.stanford.edu/"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://gis.stanford.edu/</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">"I have a map of the United States... actual size. </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile." </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">William Kyngesburye <kyngchaos*at*kyngchaos*dot*com><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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