<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I just want to give my two cents about “the issue” in macOS. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I really agree with others that <b class="">rage and anger</b> aren’t going to take us to anywhere productive although I understand the frustration when you have the <i class="">feeling</i> that something is more complicate in your platform for not reason at all. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I understand that we, macOS users, are the least concern, since we are perhaps the lesser ones. And on top of that macOS seems more complicated to make things <i class="">just</i> work. And on top top of that seems that there are few developers of QGIS on macOS. A <i class="">vicious circle</i>. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I really appreciate all the work and effort of everyone involve in the development of QGIS for all the platforms, and specially for macOS, since it’s the one I’m using. I really really really appreciate the work even more since I know that a lot of that effort is for free. This is an open source community and a lot of the people involve just invest hours in solve problems and to bring new features to users just for their love to this project. That is really admirable! </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As a Homebrew user I wondering why QGIS development for macOS isn’t more involved into bring QGIS through that tool, since, at least in my opinion, make thing easier. It’s true that for a lot of people work with the terminal is <i class="">scary</i>. It was for me when I have to return to work with the terminal for some projects, and remember working with MS-DOS when I was in high school, so it wasn’t something new. But, if you can install something as QGIS just typing in your terminal “<span style="background-color: rgb(235, 235, 235);" class="">brew install qgis3</span>” or “<span style="background-color: rgb(235, 235, 235);" class="">brew cask install qgis3</span>” and after that everything <i class="">just works</i> it’s <i class="">just</i> wonderful. And sometimes just do. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Again, thanks a lot, and I hope we can workout the issues in macOS. </div><div class=""><div class="">
<div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class="">Best Regards<br class="">Luis Puerto<br class=""><a href="http://luispuerto.net" class="">luispuerto.net</a></div></div></div></div>
</div>
<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 1 Nov 2018, at 19:52, Ivano Giuliano <<a href="mailto:ivano.giuliano@gmail.com" class="">ivano.giuliano@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Hi Nicolas,</div></div><div dir="auto" class="">wise words.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Best,</div></div><div class=""></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Ivano</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">Il giorno gio 1 nov 2018 alle 18:31 Nicolas Cadieux <<a href="mailto:nicolas.cadieux@archeotec.ca" target="_blank" class="">nicolas.cadieux@archeotec.ca</a>> ha scritto:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""></div><div class="">Hi Stace,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is a help list made up of mostly of users responding for free and if we don’t know the answer we can’t help. Your problem has been acknowledged, you received confirmation that the current download is broken “<span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class="">Yes, this one was broken, now there is a new version to download that is fixed (and shouold stay fixed in the future, for this specific problem)” and that they have found $3000 for a permanent fix for making an easier Mac installation which is what you are looking for if I am not mistaken. A link to this project was sent to you. You could contact that team to see the evolution of that project and see how you can help them with the trouble shooting. That would be a positive contribution on your part and it may get you to your solution faster than you think.</span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class="">I know it can be frustrating to be stuck with a software problem when you need a quick fix but please remember that this is an OpenSource project where volunteer users and developers are try to be helpful and try to contribute in a positive manner. </span></div></div><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class="">Nicolas Cadieux</span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class="">(list user with no link with the QGIS project)</span></div><div class=""><br class="">Le 1 nov. 2018 à 11:35, Mr. Stace D Maples <<a href="mailto:stacemaples@stanford.edu" target="_blank" class="">stacemaples@stanford.edu</a>> a écrit :<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">
<div class="m_-4407463130620865306m_-2355973174197413514m_-8180494878500263000WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">11 responses about how I should contribute more, how my problem was posted, how I can give money…<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Not one suggestion for how to fix the issue. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">In F,L&T,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">Stace Maples <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">Geospatial Manager <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">Stanford Geospatial Center<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">@mapninja <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">214.641.0920<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">Find GeoData:
<a href="https://earthworks.stanford.edu/" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:#0563c1" class="">https://earthworks.stanford.edu</span></a> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">Get GeoHelp:
<a href="https://gis.stanford.edu/" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:#0563c1" class="">https://gis.stanford.edu/</span></a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">stanfordgis Listserv:
<a href="https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:#0563c1" class="">https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis</span></a> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">"I have a map of the United States... actual size. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile." <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">I spent last summer folding it." <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">-Steven Wright-<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">From: </span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">William Kyngesburye <<a href="mailto:woklist@kyngchaos.com" target="_blank" class="">woklist@kyngchaos.com</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Reply-To: </b>William Kyngesburye <<a href="mailto:kyngchaos@kyngchaos.com" target="_blank" class="">kyngchaos@kyngchaos.com</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Date: </b>Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 6:28 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To: </b>"Mr. Stace D Maples" <<a href="mailto:stacemaples@stanford.edu" target="_blank" class="">stacemaples@stanford.edu</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Cc: </b>Qgis-user <<a href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject: </b>Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't install GRASS properly, ... 'sigh...'<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal">I don't know why you're saying not having a working installer with GRASS, the last few versions have been working as far as I know, I haven't heard of any problems recently. Yes, this one was broken, now there is a new version to download
that is fixed (and shouold stay fixed in the future, for this specific problem). Really, a polite "GRASS is not working, it's doing this, or not doing that" on the mailing list, or better a bug report, is all that's needed.
<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p>
<div class="">
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" class="">
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On Oct 31, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Mr. Stace D Maples <<a href="mailto:stacemaples@stanford.edu" target="_blank" class="">stacemaples@stanford.edu</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p>
<div class="">
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Seriously, we just can’t get a working installer for macOS? It’s just never gonna happen, is that it? I’d love to be able to teach QGIS alongside Esri, but I can tell people to use something that doesn’t work, out of the box. I’ve been
trying for 2 days now to get back to a working copy of QGIS3. It’s my fault, of course. I know better than to upgrade, now. If you aren’t going to test it properly, don’t release it.<span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Here is what I get when running GRASS tools:<span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class="">2018-10-31T08:54:25 INFO GRASS GIS 7 execution console
output</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> WARNING: Default locale settings are missing. GRASS
running with C locale.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> Starting GRASS GIS...</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> ERROR: Path '//' doesn't exist</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> Default locale not found, using UTF-8</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> Exiting...</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> WARNING: Default locale settings are missing. GRASS
running with C locale.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> Starting GRASS GIS...</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> ERROR: Path '//' doesn't exist</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> Default locale not found, using UTF-8</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#eff0f1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#242729;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#eff0f1" class=""> Exiting...</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I read the ReadMe and followed the instructions<span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I’ve added the ENV variables<span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I’ve scrubbed everything and done a clean install (several times)<span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I even tried the futile installation of the GRASS “required frameworks” which seem to be the only solutions anyone is able to suggest on StackExchange.<span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Yes I tried installing GRASS on it’s own and pointing to it from the processing settings, which didn’t work.<span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Perfectly open to suggestions that DON’T involve any of the above.<span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">In F,L&T,</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">Stace Maples </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">Geospatial Manager </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">Stanford Geospatial Center</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">@mapninja </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">214.641.0920</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">Find GeoData:<span class="m_-4407463130620865306m_-2355973174197413514m_-8180494878500263000apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://earthworks.stanford.edu/" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:#0563c1" class="">https://earthworks.stanford.edu</span></a> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">Get GeoHelp:<span class="m_-4407463130620865306m_-2355973174197413514m_-8180494878500263000apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://gis.stanford.edu/" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:#0563c1" class="">https://gis.stanford.edu/</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">stanfordgis Listserv:<span class="m_-4407463130620865306m_-2355973174197413514m_-8180494878500263000apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:#0563c1" class="">https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis</span></a> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">"I have a map of the United States... actual size. </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile." </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">I spent last summer folding it." </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">-Steven Wright-</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica" class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">
Qgis-user mailing list<br class="">
</span><a href="mailto:Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class=""><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#954f72" class="">Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><br class="">
List info:<span class="m_-4407463130620865306m_-2355973174197413514m_-8180494878500263000apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user" target="_blank" class=""><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#954f72" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user</span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><br class="">
Unsubscribe:<span class="m_-4407463130620865306m_-2355973174197413514m_-8180494878500263000apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user" target="_blank" class=""><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#954f72" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user</span></a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p>
<div class="">
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">-----<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">William Kyngesburye <kyngchaos*at*kyngchaos*dot*com><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><a href="http://www.kyngchaos.com/" target="_blank" class="">http://www.kyngchaos.com/</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">All generalizations are dangerous, even this one.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><br class="">
<br class="">
</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span class="">_______________________________________________</span><br class=""><span class="">Qgis-user mailing list</span><br class=""><span class=""><a href="mailto:Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><br class=""><span class="">List info: <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user</a></span><br class=""><span class="">Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user</a></span></div></blockquote></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">
Qgis-user mailing list<br class="">
<a href="mailto:Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class="">
List info: <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user</a><br class="">
Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user</a></blockquote></div></div>
</div>
</div>-- <br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Dr. Ivano Giuliano<br class="">GIS & Digital Administration <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div>
_______________________________________________<br class="">Qgis-user mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org" class="">Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class="">List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user<br class="">Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user</div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>