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    <p>Hi Alexandre, Ken,</p>
    <p>I would like to second this opinion and first thank you very much
      for bringing this subject up.</p>
    <p>If you are fine with it, please follow Alexandre Neto's approach
      and add new issues (one per issue you encounter) here:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues</a></p>
    <p>There we can help you (figure out what's wrong) and update the
      documentation for everyone else too.</p>
    <p>Thanks again</p>
    <p>Matthias<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/30/19 10:41 PM, Alexandre Neto
      wrote:<br>
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        <div>Hi Ken,</div>
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        <div dir="auto">It can be any of the three problems, but, since
          you are following orders, let's assume that it's not your
          error.</div>
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        <div dir="auto">I would start guessing that the documentation
          may be outdated. And it may not be a question of 3.4 vs 3.8,
          but really outdated information even for 3.4.</div>
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        <div dir="auto">This being said, can I ask you to open
          qgis-documentation bug tickets, whenever you find problems in
          the documentation?</div>
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        <div dir="auto">Thanks,</div>
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        <div dir="auto">Alexandre Neto<br>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">A quarta, 30/10/2019,
              19:18, SIGéal <<a href="mailto:sigeal@sigeal.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true">sigeal@sigeal.com</a>>
              escreveu:<br>
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              <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi,<br>
                <br>
                I remember having this problem if I typed the shapefile
                name directly in the textbox, without clicking on the
                Browse button to select a location for the file.<br>
                <br>
                Hope this helps,<br>
                <pre cols="72">-- 
Christophe
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                <div>Le 30/10/2019 à 19:29, Jorge Gustavo Rocha a
                  écrit :<br>
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                  <p>Hi Ken,</p>
                  <p>Where are you storing the new layer? Maybe you are
                    not selecting a folder where you can write the new
                    shapefile (that's why you get the permission denied
                    error). Can you confirm the location of the new
                    shapefile?</p>
                  <p>Regards,</p>
                  <p>Jorge Gustavo<br>
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                  <div>Às 16:15 de 30/10/19, Ken McCall escreveu:<br>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">After
                        years of using ARCGIS, I’m using the training
                        manual to become acquainted with QGIS. I’ve
                        downloaded 3.8, and worked through the first 100
                        pages with no problem. While <span> </span>some
                        of the 3.8 dialog boxes don’t look like the
                        training manual I’ve been able to see the
                        required buttons, drop downs, etc. But on
                        others, I’ve hit some deadends.<span></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">For
                        example, on page 105 when it try to create a
                        dynamic map canvas, in 5.2.1.5, when I go to the
                        Item <i>Properties Panel</i>, there is no <i>Position
                          and Size</i> section showing.<span></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Another
                        example: On p. 114 in ‘Creating a New Vector
                        Dataset’, when I try to save the dataset, I get
                        an error message: <span></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">‘Layer
                        creation failed: Failed to create file
                        created_shapefile.shp: Permission denied.<span></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">In
                        both examples, I’ve tried several times,
                        following the instructions, only to get the same
                        result.<span></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">So,
                        questions: <span></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Is
                        3.8 that different from 3.4? <span></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Am
                        I running into bugs in the software or the
                        documentation? (It could be user error, but I’m
                        painstakingly following the instructions.)<span></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Should
                        I scrap 3.8 and go with 3.4 instead?<span></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">TIA,<span></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
                        0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ken
                        McCall<span></span></p>
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