<div dir="ltr"><div>Yep! It was where I was storing the file. The Training Manual instructions are outdated here at the bottom of p. 114.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks to Jorge and Christophe!<br></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 3:03 PM <<a href="mailto:qgis-user-request@lists.osgeo.org">qgis-user-request@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send Qgis-user mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: Crash when opening project with QGIS 3.10 (Alessandro Pasotti)<br>
2. Re: Crash when opening project with QGIS 3.10 (Even Rouault)<br>
3. Re: Crash when opening project with QGIS 3.10 (Alessandro Pasotti)<br>
4. Problems using QGIS 3.8 with the 3.4 Training Manual (Ken McCall)<br>
5. Re: Problems using QGIS 3.8 with the 3.4 Training Manual<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 15:24:47 +0100<br>
From: Alessandro Pasotti <<a href="mailto:apasotti@gmail.com" target="_blank">apasotti@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: ben hutcher <<a href="mailto:benhutcher123@gmail.com" target="_blank">benhutcher123@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Crash when opening project with QGIS 3.10<br>
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On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 2:54 PM ben hutcher <<a href="mailto:benhutcher123@gmail.com" target="_blank">benhutcher123@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi,<br>
> I've just tried the new release, and I have a crash when trying to reopen<br>
> a project that I've just saved. Can other people replicate that with the<br>
> attached project and advise how to fix that ?<br>
><br>
<br>
<br>
I actually unzipped and inspected the project before loading it (because I<br>
know enough about QGIS internals to know what to trust).<br>
<br>
What's this about? A social experiment?<br>
<br>
om qgis.PyQt.QtWidgets import QMessageBox<br>
QMessageBox.critical(None, "Nearly busted !",<br>
"Do you realize you blindly accepted to run untrusted code " + \<br>
"that could have destroyed your computer, stolen your passwords,<br>
etc. ?\n" + \<br>
"Be reassured, nothing at all apart emitting this message has been<br>
done.\n" + \<br>
"This was just an experiment to check how users react to the<br>
default security warning. " + \<br>
"If you've read that message, please add a new line to<br>
<a href="http://collabedit.com/662b2" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://collabedit.com/662b2</a>")<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
> Ben<br>
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 15:47:07 +0100<br>
From: Even Rouault <<a href="mailto:even.rouault@spatialys.com" target="_blank">even.rouault@spatialys.com</a>><br>
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> What's this about? A social experiment?<br>
<br>
Yes, I'm "Ben Hutcher". Too bad you destroyed it so quickly :-)<br>
<br>
I just discovered this functionnality of QGIS and this scared me. I believe I <br>
would have accepted the warning because I ignored that QGIS projects could <br>
contain Python code, and I presume a lot of users would. IMHO clicking on the <br>
Enable macros link should raise a dialog box with a more explicit message <br>
about the potential risks to double confirm.<br>
<br>
"Python macros cannot currently be run." sounds to me as "you should enable <br>
macros so things work as expected". It is not even clear that the macros come <br>
from the project itself. They could be some trusted code in QGIS itself. Once <br>
you know that functionnality is, then yes the current behaviour is probably <br>
fine. But if you don't know it, there's a high chance you could run untrusted <br>
code without realizing it.<br>
<br>
Even<br>
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 15:56:35 +0100<br>
From: Alessandro Pasotti <<a href="mailto:apasotti@gmail.com" target="_blank">apasotti@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Even Rouault <<a href="mailto:even.rouault@spatialys.com" target="_blank">even.rouault@spatialys.com</a>><br>
Cc: qgis-user <<a href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Crash when opening project with QGIS 3.10<br>
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On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 3:47 PM Even Rouault <<a href="mailto:even.rouault@spatialys.com" target="_blank">even.rouault@spatialys.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
> > What's this about? A social experiment?<br>
><br>
> Yes, I'm "Ben Hutcher". Too bad you destroyed it so quickly :-)<br>
><br>
<br>
Oh, I'm sorry :)<br>
<br>
You should have told me ... you know, I'm in bug-fixing-mode and I couldn't<br>
resist ;)<br>
<br>
<br>
> I just discovered this functionnality of QGIS and this scared me. I<br>
> believe I<br>
> would have accepted the warning because I ignored that QGIS projects could<br>
> contain Python code, and I presume a lot of users would. IMHO clicking on<br>
> the<br>
> Enable macros link should raise a dialog box with a more explicit message<br>
> about the potential risks to double confirm.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
> "Python macros cannot currently be run." sounds to me as "you should<br>
> enable<br>
> macros so things work as expected". It is not even clear that the macros<br>
> come<br>
> from the project itself. They could be some trusted code in QGIS itself.<br>
> Once<br>
> you know that functionnality is, then yes the current behaviour is<br>
> probably<br>
> fine. But if you don't know it, there's a high chance you could run<br>
> untrusted<br>
> code without realizing it.<br>
><br>
> Even<br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
Agreed (same for Python code embedded in forms btw).<br>
We should warn users about the security threats associates to run untrusted<br>
code (now forms have also the option to download code from the network and<br>
run it!).<br>
<br>
Plugins as well are of course a potential threat.<br>
<br>
<br>
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 12:15:27 -0400<br>
From: Ken McCall <<a href="mailto:kenrmccall@gmail.com" target="_blank">kenrmccall@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
Subject: [Qgis-user] Problems using QGIS 3.8 with the 3.4 Training<br>
Manual<br>
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After years of using ARCGIS, I’m using the training manual to become<br>
acquainted with QGIS. I’ve downloaded 3.8, and worked through the first 100<br>
pages with no problem. While some of the 3.8 dialog boxes don’t look like<br>
the training manual I’ve been able to see the required buttons, drop downs,<br>
etc. But on others, I’ve hit some deadends.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
For example, on page 105 when it try to create a dynamic map canvas, in<br>
5.2.1.5, when I go to the Item *Properties Panel*, there is no *Position<br>
and Size* section showing.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Another example: On p. 114 in ‘Creating a New Vector Dataset’, when I try<br>
to save the dataset, I get an error message:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
‘Layer creation failed: Failed to create file created_shapefile.shp:<br>
Permission denied.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
In both examples, I’ve tried several times, following the instructions,<br>
only to get the same result.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
So, questions:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Is 3.8 that different from 3.4?<br>
<br>
Am I running into bugs in the software or the documentation? (It could be<br>
user error, but I’m painstakingly following the instructions.)<br>
<br>
Should I scrap 3.8 and go with 3.4 instead?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
TIA,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Ken McCall<br>
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 18:29:19 +0000<br>
From: Jorge Gustavo Rocha <<a href="mailto:jgr@geomaster.pt" target="_blank">jgr@geomaster.pt</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
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Hi Ken,<br>
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Where are you storing the new layer? Maybe you are not selecting a<br>
folder where you can write the new shapefile (that's why you get the<br>
permission denied error). Can you confirm the location of the new shapefile?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Jorge Gustavo<br>
<br>
Às 16:15 de 30/10/19, Ken McCall escreveu:<br>
><br>
> After years of using ARCGIS, I’m using the training manual to become<br>
> acquainted with QGIS. I’ve downloaded 3.8, and worked through the<br>
> first 100 pages with no problem. While some of the 3.8 dialog boxes<br>
> don’t look like the training manual I’ve been able to see the required<br>
> buttons, drop downs, etc. But on others, I’ve hit some deadends.<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
> For example, on page 105 when it try to create a dynamic map canvas,<br>
> in 5.2.1.5, when I go to the Item /Properties Panel/, there is no<br>
> /Position and Size/ section showing.<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
> Another example: On p. 114 in ‘Creating a New Vector Dataset’, when I<br>
> try to save the dataset, I get an error message:<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
> ‘Layer creation failed: Failed to create file created_shapefile.shp:<br>
> Permission denied.<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
> In both examples, I’ve tried several times, following the<br>
> instructions, only to get the same result.<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
> So, questions:<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
> Is 3.8 that different from 3.4?<br>
><br>
> Am I running into bugs in the software or the documentation? (It could<br>
> be user error, but I’m painstakingly following the instructions.)<br>
><br>
> Should I scrap 3.8 and go with 3.4 instead?<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
> TIA,<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
> Ken McCall<br>
><br>
><br>
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