<div dir="ltr">Thank you Jarosław. Isn't it strange that this was discussed 5 years ago and SMB file sharing is very common? Would a linux based NAS be able to use another protocol? What are my options for file based data sharing in QGIS? Abandoning geopackages is not a realistic option for me, but I could get a different kind of NAS unit, if that helps, what kind then? What amazes me is how little I see this discussed. There was a message in this thread this morning from Thomas Struller, but I am not sure it is about the same root problem, maybe Thomas can elaborate.<div>Should this perhaps be discussed in another forum, closer to the development of geopackage/sqlite?<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><font color="#000000">Árni Geirsson</font><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 at 09:52, Sadowski Jarosław <<a href="mailto:jaroslaw.sadowski@cpk.pl" target="_blank">jaroslaw.sadowski@cpk.pl</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Long story short: gpkg is bad idea for network drives as SMB/NAS etc<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Yes, as far as I know, the NAS unit uses SMB as the file sharing protocol. I used another NAS from QNAP before this one, also using SMB and with the same problem. I thought pretty much all of the Linux based NAS units
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I store my geopackages on a Synology RackStation NAS unit, like all other documents that are kept on a shared drive in the office. For larger datasets, the rendering is very slow, unless I open the properties dialog for
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