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    <p><font size="4"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Hello
          Loke:</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="4"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">We are
          working on a project in Date orchards. We also tried to create
          a point layer of tree crowns using drone acquired LIDAR. We
          created a Canopy Height Model, then used a local maxima
          procedure to identify crowns. </font></font><font size="4"><font
          face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font size="4"><font
              face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">It was a bit
              disappointing. </font></font> It seems that dates,
          especially, have local peaks not at the tree center: Some of
          the central fronds extend outward from the tree center and
          they are the highest points. So we got more than one "crown"
          for each tree, and not really at the tree center. <br>
        </font></font></p>
    <p><font size="4"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">A better
          approach was to delineate the circumferences of each tree as
          polygons, from the CHM, and a minimum height above ground.
          Then we took the centroid of each polygon. That worked more or
          less OK on young orchards. But with older orchards, having a
          wide spread of fronds, and the canopy of one tree touching the
          next, this method also failed.</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="4"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">So, not
          really a helpful suggestion, only possible pitfalls to look
          out for...</font></font></p>
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    <p><font size="4"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Best,</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="4"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Micha<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/06/2023 11:10, Loke Jian Munn via
      QGIS-User wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Resend to include the attachment.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="color:#005826;letter-spacing:-.3pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">Loke
                Jian Munn</span></b><span
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PGothic",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"
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              Technology (IT) Department</span><span
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PGothic",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"
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style="font-size:9.5pt;color:#005826;letter-spacing:-.2pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">KUALA
                LUMPUR KEPONG BERHAD</span></b><span
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PGothic",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"
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style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:95%;color:#585858;letter-spacing:-.1pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">Wisma
              Taiko,</span><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:95%;font-family:"MS
PGothic",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"
              lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:95%;color:#585858;letter-spacing:-.1pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">No.
              1, Jalan S.P. Seenivasagam,</span><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:95%;font-family:"MS
PGothic",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"
              lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:95%"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:95%;color:#585858;letter-spacing:-.1pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">30000
              Ipoh,Perak Darul Ridzuan,Malaysia</span><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:95%;font-family:"MS
PGothic",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"
              lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:95%;color:#005826;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">T   
                : 
              </span></b><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:95%;color:#585858;letter-spacing:-.1pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">+605
              240 8000 (ext. 2443)</span><span
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PGothic",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                lang="EN-US"> Loke Jian Munn
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 21 June, 2023 4:09 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> kirk <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kirk@nortekresources.com"><kirk@nortekresources.com></a>;
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org">qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>; Richard McDonnell
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:richard.mcdonnell@opw.ie"><richard.mcdonnell@opw.ie></a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> RE: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Hi, <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">As mention previously, I need NIR band to
          perform the NDVI, however my drone sensor does not record NIR
          band.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">So, I trying another way which is crop
          counting from orthophoto with Python and Scikit Image. The
          whole process is geospatial as it works with raster and
          shapefiles and results are finally displayed on QGIS.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">But the results I get are like below:<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">After Zoom in: <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">May I know what’s goes wrong ? I have
          attached the Python code above for references. For this
          project, I using an Orthomosaic layer with resolution of 5cm.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Appreciate if you can provide me some
          guidelines or insights in this as this is my first time
          touching python and scikit.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="color:#005826;letter-spacing:-.3pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">Loke
                Jian Munn</span></b><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"MS
PGothic",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"
              lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:3.0pt"><span
style="color:#585858;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">Information
              Technology (IT) Department</span><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"MS
PGothic",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"
              lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:9.5pt;color:#005826;letter-spacing:-.2pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">KUALA
                LUMPUR KEPONG BERHAD</span></b><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"MS
PGothic",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"
              lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:95%;color:#585858;letter-spacing:-.1pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">Wisma
              Taiko,</span><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:95%;font-family:"MS
PGothic",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"
              lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:95%"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:95%;color:#585858;letter-spacing:-.1pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">No.
              1, Jalan S.P. Seenivasagam,</span><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:95%;font-family:"MS
PGothic",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"
              lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:95%"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:95%;color:#585858;letter-spacing:-.1pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">30000
              Ipoh,Perak Darul Ridzuan,Malaysia</span><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:95%;font-family:"MS
PGothic",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"
              lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:95%"><b><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:95%;color:#005826;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">T   
                : 
              </span></b><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:95%;color:#585858;letter-spacing:-.1pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">+605
              240 8000 (ext. 2443)</span><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:95%;font-family:"MS
PGothic",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"
              lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                lang="EN-US"> kirk <<a
                  href="mailto:kirk@nortekresources.com"
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">kirk@nortekresources.com</a>>
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 6 June, 2023 6:09 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Loke Jian Munn <<a
                  href="mailto:jm.loke@klk.com.my"
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jm.loke@klk.com.my</a>>;
                <a href="mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org"
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Loke<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Richard suggested using a NDVI approach
              which would require data in the Near Infrared (NIR) band. 
              An orthomisaic would contain 3 colour bands, but not the
              NIR.  NDVI provides an understanding of plant greenness
              and health and may not be suitable for detecting oil
              palm's.  <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">If you are getting 90 percent plus with
              your current approach , you may find that you will spend 4
              times longer capturing the additional 10 percent.  <o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">NIR data,are available from various
              satellite sensors however, their resolution would not work
              at the individual plant level.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Some drone sensors record the NIR band.<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Kirk Schmidt<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        </div>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#575757">Sent from my
                Galaxy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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