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    <p>Hi Frank,</p>
    <p>That is weird! I am on 3.4, but installed from the Debian link,
      not the ubuntugis as there I had dependency issues. Maybe there is
      still a big difference between the two. But I will try the
      ubuntugis route again. The proj version obviously makes all the
      difference.<br>
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    <p>Regards</p>
    <p>Immo<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018/11/13 12:20, Frank Sokolic via
      qgis-za-user wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Immo,</div>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Not sure why they don't show up for
        you. I can see them on QGIS 3.14 and the Proj version is 5.1.0.
        This is on Ubuntu Linux.</div>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Regards, Frank.</div>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018/11/13 11:31, Immo Blecher via
        qgis-za-user wrote:<br>
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        <p>Hi QGIS Users,<br>
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        <p>I can't find these in my QGIS 3.4. And I see that Proj4 is
          still on version 4.93, but the latest seems to be 5.2.</p>
        <p>But what I also noticed is that Proj4 changed the way it
          converts from/to Hartebeesthoek94 (15 to 31) from version 4.7
          to vers. 4.9: Using proj4 4.7 to convert one had to turn
          around E-W and N-S, w.o.w. X = -X and Y = -Y and then convert.
          From vers. 4.9 this was not necessary any longer so I think
          the calculations in QGIS should be sorted out (it is actually
          a bug and that is why everything is upside down and
          right=left). That would also mean that we would not need the
          ZANGI:ZANGI projections any longer but just use the built-in
          Hartebeesthoek94 ones.</p>
        <p>For what it's worth!</p>
        <p>Immo<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018/11/13 10:58, Frank Sokolic
          via qgis-za-user wrote:<br>
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          cite="mid:04a61402-c662-d6e9-419f-b6832197663a@worldonline.co.za">Hi
          QGIS users, <br>
          <br>
          I noticed last week that these CRSs have appeared in QGIS
          under Project Coordinate Systems > Transverse Mercator: <br>
          <br>
          EPSG:102480 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo15 <br>
          EPSG:102481 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo17 <br>
          EPSG:102482 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo19 <br>
          EPSG:102483 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo21 <br>
          EPSG:102484 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo23 <br>
          EPSG:102485 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo25 <br>
          EPSG:102486 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo27 <br>
          EPSG:102487 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo29 <br>
          EPSG:102488 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo31 <br>
          EPSG:102489 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo33 <br>
          EPSG:102562 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo19_(E-N) <br>
          EPSG:102563 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo21_(E-N) <br>
          EPSG:102564 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo23_(E-N) <br>
          EPSG:102565 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo25_(E-N) <br>
          EPSG:102566 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo27_(E-N) <br>
          EPSG:102567 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo29_(E-N) <br>
          EPSG:102568 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo31_(E-N) <br>
          <br>
          Anyone know anything about them? Are these now the official
          South African CRSs in the EPSG database? If so, where are
          L015_(E-N), L017_(E-N) and L033_(E-N)? <br>
          <br>
          With these new additions, there are now a few versions of the
          South African CRSs in the QGIS CRS database (e.g. EPSG 2046 to
          EPSG 2055 as well as ZANGI:HBKNO15 to ZANGI:HBK033) so I guess
          things need to be cleaned up. <br>
          <br>
          Regards, Frank. <br>
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