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    <p>Good Morning,</p>
    <p>I think the "latest" proj4 probably sits with the
      ubuntugis-unstable version. And I am on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, which
      apparently does not support the latest ubuntugis-unstable. Or did
      anybody get it installed and working?</p>
    <p>Regards</p>
    <p>Immo<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018/11/13 19:16, Paul Young via
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        <div dir="ltr">Hi there I tried to pul the Docker Proj4 and it
          would not upgrade.
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          <div>It gave: Rel. 4.9.3, 15 August 2016<br>
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          <div>Maybe it needs to be compiled from source?</div>
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          <div dir="ltr">On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 12:24, Immo Blecher via
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              <p>Hi Frank,</p>
              <p>That is weird! I am on 3.4, but installed from the
                Debian link, not the ubuntugis as there I had dependency
                issues. Maybe there is still a big difference between
                the two. But I will try the ubuntugis route again. The
                proj version obviously makes all the difference.<br>
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              <p>Regards</p>
              <p>Immo<br>
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              <div class="m_5320264944190381084moz-cite-prefix">On
                2018/11/13 12:20, Frank Sokolic via qgis-za-user wrote:<br>
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                <div class="m_5320264944190381084moz-cite-prefix">Hi
                  Immo,</div>
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                <div class="m_5320264944190381084moz-cite-prefix">Not
                  sure why they don't show up for you. I can see them on
                  QGIS 3.14 and the Proj version is 5.1.0. This is on
                  Ubuntu Linux.</div>
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                <div class="m_5320264944190381084moz-cite-prefix">Regards,
                  Frank.</div>
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                <div class="m_5320264944190381084moz-cite-prefix">On
                  2018/11/13 11:31, Immo Blecher via qgis-za-user wrote:<br>
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                  <p>Hi QGIS Users,<br>
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                  <p>I can't find these in my QGIS 3.4. And I see that
                    Proj4 is still on version 4.93, but the latest seems
                    to be 5.2.</p>
                  <p>But what I also noticed is that Proj4 changed the
                    way it converts from/to Hartebeesthoek94 (15 to 31)
                    from version 4.7 to vers. 4.9: Using proj4 4.7 to
                    convert one had to turn around E-W and N-S, w.o.w. X
                    = -X and Y = -Y and then convert. From vers. 4.9
                    this was not necessary any longer so I think the
                    calculations in QGIS should be sorted out (it is
                    actually a bug and that is why everything is upside
                    down and right=left). That would also mean that we
                    would not need the ZANGI:ZANGI projections any
                    longer but just use the built-in Hartebeesthoek94
                    ones.</p>
                  <p>For what it's worth!</p>
                  <p>Immo<br>
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                    2018/11/13 10:58, Frank Sokolic via qgis-za-user
                    wrote:<br>
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                  <blockquote type="cite">Hi QGIS users, <br>
                    <br>
                    I noticed last week that these CRSs have appeared in
                    QGIS under Project Coordinate Systems >
                    Transverse Mercator: <br>
                    <br>
                    EPSG:102480 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo15 <br>
                    EPSG:102481 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo17 <br>
                    EPSG:102482 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo19 <br>
                    EPSG:102483 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo21 <br>
                    EPSG:102484 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo23 <br>
                    EPSG:102485 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo25 <br>
                    EPSG:102486 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo27 <br>
                    EPSG:102487 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo29 <br>
                    EPSG:102488 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo31 <br>
                    EPSG:102489 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo33 <br>
                    EPSG:102562 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo19_(E-N) <br>
                    EPSG:102563 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo21_(E-N) <br>
                    EPSG:102564 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo23_(E-N) <br>
                    EPSG:102565 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo25_(E-N) <br>
                    EPSG:102566 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo27_(E-N) <br>
                    EPSG:102567 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo29_(E-N) <br>
                    EPSG:102568 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo31_(E-N) <br>
                    <br>
                    Anyone know anything about them? Are these now the
                    official South African CRSs in the EPSG database? If
                    so, where are L015_(E-N), L017_(E-N) and L033_(E-N)?
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    With these new additions, there are now a few
                    versions of the South African CRSs in the QGIS CRS
                    database (e.g. EPSG 2046 to EPSG 2055 as well as
                    ZANGI:HBKNO15 to ZANGI:HBK033) so I guess things
                    need to be cleaned up. <br>
                    <br>
                    Regards, Frank. <br>
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