<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><div class="moz-signature"><div style="text-align:center" class=""><div style="text-align:start" class="">Hi Aslam</div><div style="text-align:start" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="text-align:start" class="">my responses inline</div>
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 16 Nov 2018, at 11:28, Aslam Parker via qgis-za-user <<a href="mailto:qgis-za-user@lists.osgeo.org" class="">qgis-za-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><p class="ImprintUniqueID" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"></p><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hi All<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">We had a look at the new CRS's in QGIS 3.4.1.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Comparatively, the original CRS metadata is (e.g.):<o:p class=""></o:p></div><p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"></p></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="ImprintUniqueID" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"> </p><p class="ImprintUniqueID" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"></p><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">_________________________________________<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hartebeesthoek94 / Lo19 [EPSG: 2048] ..... EPSG numbers range from 2046 - 2055<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Extent: 17.99, -34.88, 20.00, -28.38 ...... This varies depends on the central meridian<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Proj4: +proj=tmerc +lat_0=0 +lon_0=19 +k=1 +x_0=0 +y_0=0 +axis=wsu +ellps=WGS84 +towgs84=0,0,0,0,0,0,0 +units=m +no_defs<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">These were the official parameters supplied by Chief Directorate: National Geospatial Information as indicated in the EPSG metadata. EPSG will not add information from non-authoritative sources. In QGIS the values will be correctly displayed, but a rotation of 180 deg will have to be applied for a North up view, unless there is a way for QGIS to automatically rotate view if it detects a south oriented coordinate system. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Here’s my 4-year-old feature request in this regard: <a href="https://issues.qgis.org/issues/11303" class="">https://issues.qgis.org/issues/11303</a> (no GIS software does this afaik)</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">This is regardless of what source CRS data you bring into the project as the on-the fly conversions works well. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>agreed</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Unfortunately not all software is able to deal correctly with a left handed system.</div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">These use the correct extent, central meridian, scale factor, reference ellipsoid and positive coordinate order and orientation correctly identified as wsu. These are the recommended CRS's to use when working in Hartbeesthoek94 Projected .</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>agreed</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On a really technical level, the relationship between Hartebeesthoek94 and WGS84 is changing and the +towgs84=0,0,0,0,0,0,0 is not true at the sub 1m level.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>agreed</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">______________________________________________________________________<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The ZANGI:HBK CRS metadata is (e.g.):<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">South African CRS : HBK_NO_19 [ZANGI:ZANGI:HBKNO19]<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Extent: Extent not known<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Proj4: +proj=tmerc +lat_0=0 +lon_0=19 +k=1 +x_0=0 +y_0=0 +axis=enu +ellps=WGS84 +towgs84=0,0,0,0,0,0,0 +units=m +no_defs<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The ZANGI:HBK series of CRS's are similar (no extent in the metadata) but use a north-east positive axis orientation. This CRS is not consistent with the official SACRS and in not recommended. Although it seems that our imagery is correctly displayed when overlaying SG data, the displayed coordinates magnitude and order is correct, but the sign is opposite. These have no EPSG numbers and not recommended for use if you require correctly display of coordinate in the SACRS.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>Tim and I added these to QGIS in 2013. They are indeed correct for data whose coordinates are ENU, which is most non-survey GIS data in SA.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">______________________________________________________________________<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The new CRS's that have appeared in QGIS have the following metadata (e.g.):<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The "EPSG codes" 102480 to 102489 and 102562 to 102568 do not occur in the EPSG registry. (<a href="https://www.epsg-registry.org/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.epsg-registry.org/</a>), our guess is that someone in the QGIS community has added these in QGIS.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hartebeesthoek94_Lo19 [EPSG:102482]<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Extent: Extent not known<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Proj4: +proj=tmerc +lat_0=0 +lon_0=19 +k=-1 +x_0=0 +y_0=0 +ellps=WGS84 +units=m +no_defs<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hartebeesthoek94_Lo19_(E-N) [EPSG:102562]<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Extent: Extent not known<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Proj4: +proj=tmerc +lat_0=0 +lon_0=19 +k=1 +x_0=0 +y_0=0 +ellps=WGS84 +units=m +no_defs<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">These have no extent information but use the correct central meridians and ellipsoid. However, the only difference is the scale factor. As there is no reference to the axis orientation, these CRS's probably work in the default north-east orientation and control the orientation using the scale factor, i.e. the former uses a scale factor of -1 while the latter uses a scale factor of 1.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hence, the latter (E-N) CRS is north-east orientated and the former seems south-west orientated. The EPSG numbers range from<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="tel:102480%20-%20102489" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">102480 - 102489</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>for the south west orientated CRS's and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="tel:102562%20-%20102568" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">102562 - 102568</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>for the north-east orientated CRS's. The use of a -1 scale factor is an incorrect implementation to give the impression of a left-handed system.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>I am concerned as to where these came from and why they cite the EPSG as authority!</div><div><br class=""></div><div>They are completely unnecessary and redundant as 120480-102489 are already covered by the official 2046-2055 ones and 102562-102568 are already covered by the ZANGI ones. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>I’ve created this issue to request their removal: <a href="https://issues.qgis.org/issues/20624" class="">https://issues.qgis.org/issues/20624</a></div><div><br class=""></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">____________________________________________<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">In summary, we recommend that only the original CRS's (EPSG 2046 - 2055) which inherently specify the axis orientation in the metadata and do not control the orientation using scale factors be used.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Agreed, if your coordinates are WSU. But in most real-world GIS cases in SA they are ENU so the ZANGI CRS are ideal for these. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>Gavin</div><div><br class=""></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Perhaps a clean-up is in order and in future we should be notified when new CRS's for South Africa are added to the EPSG registry so we can verify them.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hope this helps.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Kind regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Cameron van Eck, Patrick Vorster and Aslam Parker<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>qgis-za-user [<a href="mailto:qgis-za-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:qgis-za-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Paul Young via qgis-za-user<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, 15 November 2018 10:08 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>South Africa QGIS user group<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Paul Young<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [QGIS-ZA-user] South African CRSs in QGIS<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">I still have Proj4 ver 4.9.3. but run QGIS 3.4 but I think the repo is QGIS not Ubuntu GIS. I suppose I could add the Ubuntu GIS repo into /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt-get update and upgrade to get it to 5.2?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 09:17 Tim Sutton via qgis-za-user <<a href="mailto:qgis-za-user@lists.osgeo.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">qgis-za-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Hi<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">For those interested, you can see a detailed report on the EPSG codes published here (go back to the home page to tweak the search string if needed):<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><a href="http://www.epsg-registry.org/report.htm?type=selection&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::4940&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::4941&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::4148&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::2046&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::2047&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::2048&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::2049&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::2050&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::2051&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::2052&reportDetail=long&style=urn:uuid:report-style:default-with-code&style_name=OGP%20Default%20With%20Code&title=South%20African%20Projections&r=59" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.epsg-registry.org/report.htm?type=selection&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::4940&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::4941&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::4148&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::2046&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::2047&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::2048&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::2049&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::2050&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::2051&entity=urn:ogc:def:crs:EPSG::2052&reportDetail=long&style=urn:uuid:report-style:default-with-code&style_name=OGP%20Default%20With%20Code&title=South%20African%20Projections&r=59</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">QGIS uses a little internal application called crssync to populate it’s internal CRS database from Proj. Layered on top of that are other CRSes that haven’t made their way into EPSG yet. It takes a while for CRS’s to make their way into EPSG -> Proj -> QGIS. The ZANGI definitions were QGIS specific definitions that Gavin and I cooked up in the absence of these CRS’s being in EPSG and Proj. Please let us know if the ones provided in Proj 5 now deprecate the ZANGI and I will remove them from QGIS’s CRS database. We hope to eventually remove the need for QGIS’ own layer on top of the Proj database. Even (proj maintainer) has been talking about moving proj’s CRS database to a sqlite database so in theory we could just have one database that is shared between, proj, gdal, QGIS etc. which would make things more consistent.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">BTW Mac users are also still getting Proj 493 in the official Mac packages.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Happy QGISsing :-)<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Regards<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Tim<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On 15 Nov 2018, at 08:52, Immo Blecher via qgis-za-user <<a href="mailto:qgis-za-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">qgis-za-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Morning Frank,<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">This is exactly the one I am using but it has proj 493. I will do a complete removal and install again, maybe some older files remain due to dependencies?<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Thanks for all your help.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Regards<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Immo<o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On 2018/11/14 08:37, Frank Sokolic via qgis-za-user wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Hi Immo,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">This is the repository I'm using:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">deb<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://qgis.org/ubuntu" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://qgis.org/ubuntu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>cosmic main<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">When I install QGIS 3.4 from this repository it loads Proj 5.1.0 which contains the CRSs I listed in my earlier post.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Frank.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On 2018/11/14 07:58, Immo Blecher via qgis-za-user wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Good Morning,<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">I think the "latest" proj4 probably sits with the ubuntugis-unstable version. And I am on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, which apparently does not support the latest ubuntugis-unstable. Or did anybody get it installed and working?<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Regards<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Immo<o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On 2018/11/13 19:16, Paul Young via qgis-za-user wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Hi there I tried to pul the Docker Proj4 and it would not upgrade.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">It gave: Rel. 4.9.3, 15 August 2016<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Maybe it needs to be compiled from source?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0cm;" class=""><span id="cid:image006.jpg@01D47D9F.CE1A5010"><image006.jpg></span></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 12:24, Immo Blecher via qgis-za-user <<a href="mailto:qgis-za-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">qgis-za-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" class=""><div class=""><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Hi Frank,<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">That is weird! I am on 3.4, but installed from the Debian link, not the ubuntugis as there I had dependency issues. Maybe there is still a big difference between the two. But I will try the ubuntugis route again. The proj version obviously makes all the difference.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Regards<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Immo<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On 2018/11/13 12:20, Frank Sokolic via qgis-za-user wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Hi Immo,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Not sure why they don't show up for you. I can see them on QGIS 3.14 and the Proj version is 5.1.0. This is on Ubuntu Linux.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Regards, Frank.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On 2018/11/13 11:31, Immo Blecher via qgis-za-user wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Hi QGIS Users,<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">I can't find these in my QGIS 3.4. And I see that Proj4 is still on version 4.93, but the latest seems to be 5.2.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">But what I also noticed is that Proj4 changed the way it converts from/to Hartebeesthoek94 (15 to 31) from version 4.7 to vers. 4.9: Using proj4 4.7 to convert one had to turn around E-W and N-S, w.o.w. X = -X and Y = -Y and then convert. From vers. 4.9 this was not necessary any longer so I think the calculations in QGIS should be sorted out (it is actually a bug and that is why everything is upside down and right=left). That would also mean that we would not need the ZANGI:ZANGI projections any longer but just use the built-in Hartebeesthoek94 ones.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">For what it's worth!<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Immo<o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On 2018/11/13 10:58, Frank Sokolic via qgis-za-user wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Hi QGIS users,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">I noticed last week that these CRSs have appeared in QGIS under Project Coordinate Systems > Transverse Mercator:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">EPSG:102480 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo15<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">EPSG:102481 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo17<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">EPSG:102482 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo19<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">EPSG:102483 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo21<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">EPSG:102484 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo23<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">EPSG:102485 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo25<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">EPSG:102486 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo27<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">EPSG:102487 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo29<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">EPSG:102488 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo31<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">EPSG:102489 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo33<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">EPSG:102562 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo19_(E-N)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">EPSG:102563 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo21_(E-N)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">EPSG:102564 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo23_(E-N)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">EPSG:102565 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo25_(E-N)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">EPSG:102566 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo27_(E-N)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">EPSG:102567 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo29_(E-N)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">EPSG:102568 Hartebeesthoek94_Lo31_(E-N)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Anyone know anything about them? Are these now the official South African CRSs in the EPSG database? If so, where are L015_(E-N), L017_(E-N) and L033_(E-N)?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">With these new additions, there are now a few versions of the South African CRSs in the QGIS CRS database (e.g. EPSG 2046 to EPSG 2055 as well as ZANGI:HBKNO15 to ZANGI:HBK033) so I guess things need to be cleaned up.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Regards, Frank.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">qgis-za-user mailing list<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><a href="mailto:qgis-za-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">qgis-za-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-za-user" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-za-user</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></blockquote><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><strong class="">Immo F. 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text-decoration: underline;" class="">Google+</a> ; <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulysa1969" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">LinkedIn</a> ; <a href="https://www.facebook.com/paulysa1969" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">FaceBook</a> ; <a href="https://www.twitter.com/paulysa1969" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Twitter</a> ; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/paulysa1969" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Instagram</a> ; <a href="https://za.pinterest.com/paulysa1969" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Pinterest</a> ; <a href="https://www.snapchat.com/add/paulysa1969" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">SnapChat</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">N <span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">�</span>n<span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">�</span>r<span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">����</span>)em<span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">�</span>h<span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">�</span>yhiם<span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">�</span>w^<span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">���</span><o:p class=""></o:p></pre></blockquote><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><strong class="">Immo F. Blecher</strong><b class=""><span style="color: gray;" class=""><br class=""><strong class="">Street:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></span></b><em class=""><span style="color: gray;" class="">36 Saffraan Ave., Die Boord, Stellenbosch, 7613, South Africa</span></em><i class=""><span style="color: gray;" class=""><br class=""></span></i><em class=""><b class=""><span style="color: gray; font-style: normal;" class="">Postal:</span></b><span style="color: gray;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>PO Box 74, Lynedoch, 7603, South Africa</span></em><i class=""><span style="color: gray;" class=""><br class=""></span></i><em class=""><b class=""><span style="color: gray; font-style: normal;" class="">Cell:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></em><span style="color: gray;" class=""><a href="tel:+27%2083%20272%206791" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">+27 83 272 6791</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" class="">|</span><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">Fax:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="color: gray;" class=""><a href="tel:+27%2086%20736%203302" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">+27 86 736 3302</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">Email:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:immo@blecher.co.za" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">immo@blecher.co.za</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" class="">|<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:immob19@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">immob19@gmail.com</a><span style="color: blue;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" class="">|<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><u class=""><span style="color: blue;" class=""><a href="mailto:immob@mymtnmail.co.za" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">immob@mymtnmail.co.za</a><br class=""></span></u><b class=""><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);" class="">Internet:</span></b><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://www.blecher.co.za/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.blecher.co.za/</a><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: gray;" class="">Contact me:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0cm;" class=""><span id="cid:image007.jpg@01D47D9F.CE1A5010"><image007.jpg></span></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:immob19@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">immob19@gmail.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0cm;" class=""><span id="cid:image007.jpg@01D47D9F.CE1A5010"><image007.jpg></span></span>immoblecher</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div id="m_1751657845714451898WISESTAMP_SIG_9425" class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(229, 229, 229); padding: 1pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; border: none; padding: 0cm;" class=""><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/immo-blecher/30/414/b8" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0cm; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span id="cid:image008.jpg@01D47D9F.CE1A5010"><image008.jpg></span></span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></p></div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width: 924.609375px;"><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td width="1%" valign="top" style="width: 39.328125px; padding: 0cm;" class=""><div style="border-style: none solid none none; border-right-width: 1pt; border-right-color: rgb(229, 229, 229); padding: 0cm 4pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; border: none; padding: 0cm;" class=""><span style="border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0cm;" class=""><span id="cid:image009.jpg@01D47D9F.CE1A5010"><image009.jpg></span></span><o:p class=""></o:p></p></div></td><td valign="top" style="padding: 0cm;" class=""><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy.<o:p class=""></o:p></p></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: gray; padding: 1pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; border: none; padding: 0cm;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: gray;" class="">IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p></div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0cm;" class=""><span id="cid:image010.jpg@01D47D9F.CE1A5010"><image010.jpg></span></span><o:p class=""></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">_______________________________________________<o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">qgis-za-user mailing list<o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class=""><a href="mailto:qgis-za-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">qgis-za-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class=""><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-za-user" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-za-user</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre></blockquote><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">N <span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">�</span>n<span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">�</span>r<span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">����</span>)em<span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">�</span>h<span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">�</span>yhiם<span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">�</span>w^<span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">���</span><o:p class=""></o:p></pre></blockquote><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><strong class="">Immo F. Blecher</strong><b class=""><span style="color: gray;" class=""><br class=""><strong class="">Street:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></span></b><em class=""><span style="color: gray;" class="">36 Saffraan Ave., Die Boord, Stellenbosch, 7613, South Africa</span></em><i class=""><span style="color: gray;" class=""><br class=""></span></i><em class=""><b class=""><span style="color: gray; font-style: normal;" class="">Postal:</span></b><span style="color: gray;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>PO Box 74, Lynedoch, 7603, South Africa</span></em><i class=""><span style="color: gray;" class=""><br class=""></span></i><em class=""><b class=""><span style="color: gray; font-style: normal;" class="">Cell:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></em><span style="color: gray;" class=""><a href="tel:+27%2083%20272%206791" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">+27 83 272 6791</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" class="">|</span><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">Fax:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="color: gray;" class=""><a href="tel:+27%2086%20736%203302" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">+27 86 736 3302</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">Email:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:immo@blecher.co.za" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">immo@blecher.co.za</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" class="">|<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:immob19@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">immob19@gmail.com</a><span style="color: blue;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" class="">|<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><u class=""><span style="color: blue;" class=""><a href="mailto:immob@mymtnmail.co.za" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">immob@mymtnmail.co.za</a><br class=""></span></u><b class=""><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);" class="">Internet:</span></b><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://www.blecher.co.za/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.blecher.co.za/</a><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: gray;" class="">Contact me:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0cm;" class=""><span id="cid:image007.jpg@01D47D9F.CE1A5010"><image007.jpg></span></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:immob19@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">immob19@gmail.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0cm;" class=""><span id="cid:image007.jpg@01D47D9F.CE1A5010"><image007.jpg></span></span>immoblecher</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div id="m_1751657845714451898WISESTAMP_SIG_9425" class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(229, 229, 229); padding: 1pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; border: none; padding: 0cm;" class=""><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/immo-blecher/30/414/b8" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0cm; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span id="cid:image008.jpg@01D47D9F.CE1A5010"><image008.jpg></span></span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></p></div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width: 1084.609375px;"><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td width="1%" valign="top" style="width: 39.328125px; padding: 0cm;" class=""><div style="border-style: none solid none none; border-right-width: 1pt; border-right-color: rgb(229, 229, 229); padding: 0cm 4pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; border: none; padding: 0cm;" class=""><span style="border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0cm;" class=""><span id="cid:image009.jpg@01D47D9F.CE1A5010"><image009.jpg></span></span><o:p class=""></o:p></p></div></td><td valign="top" style="padding: 0cm;" class=""><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy.<o:p class=""></o:p></p></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: gray; padding: 1pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; border: none; padding: 0cm;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: gray;" class="">IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p></div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0cm;" class=""><span id="cid:image010.jpg@01D47D9F.CE1A5010"><image010.jpg></span></span><o:p class=""></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">qgis-za-user mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:qgis-za-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">qgis-za-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-za-user" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-za-user</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; 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text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Tim Sutton</span></b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; 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