telascience backup plan - was Re: [SAC] xblade 14 down

[Markus Neteler]

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Tyler Mitchell<tmitchell at osgeo.org> wrote:
>> I would like to bring up the backup situation of our "services"
>> hosted at Telascience. We all appreciate very much the ease
>> of access there and the tremendous bandwidth they offer.
>
> I can't speak to the backup problem, but I was surprised to see
> "essential" services being run on Telascience servers.  I was under the
> impression these services were being used for large file downloads and
> test/build environments, etc. and not necessarily for project primary
> websites.
>
> Why are our funded and "supported" hosting services (PEER1) not being used
> for mission critical website services?

At least for the GRASS project, we simply didn't have ssh access to
the PEER1 machine. I meanwhile have but consider it to be a
bottleneck to enable only one person per project (as we have just
seen).

> Is it related to our security
> policies, disk space limitations or some other issue with osgeo1/2?  Is it
> something we can change to better support the projects with live supported
> machines?
>
> I'm not questioning the rationale for Telascience hosting but just
> wondering how we got here with some of the main project websites,
> specifically because it looks bad.  When I speak to audiences about
> "supporting our projects", then their sites
> disappear for a long period, it looks like we are not doing a good support
> job - even though it's beyond our control and with best intentions.
>
> Hope these are constructive questions we can work through together.

I hope the same...

Markus