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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I agree we should come up with a better technical way of dealing with this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I recall some had come up, but I can’t remember what they are.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>There is the usual captcha but those have a habit of not working well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Even with real humans I’ve run into some who were clearly just SEO folks wanting to post ads on our sites.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>There also seem to be quite a few people wanting accounts cause they confuse us with some other org or think they need an account to use QGIS software.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I haven’t figured out if it’s just some plugins asking for some sort of registration or what.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Note sure how to make it clear to these folks they don’t need one.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Trac is the least of our concerns in protecting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The following things require OSGeo LDAP account and I’d want to be careful about<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>QGIS plugin registration<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Being able to set up a profile on osgeo.org<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Being able to setup or edit a page on wiki.osgeo.org<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Yes being able to post trac tickets<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Being able to put files on nextcloud.osgeo.org<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Translating using Weblate.osgeo.org<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Logging into OSGeo servers – though granted that requires you being in a special group as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Adding videos to video.osgeo.org<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Being able to start a meeting on meet.osgeo.org<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Regarding Jody’s comment I suppose we can setup at least a routine to trust all .edu and .gov addresses, cause those I just give them the mantra anyway without asking.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>We could also just code discobot in discourse I think so that if a person has reached a certain level in discourse they will be granted the mantra if they ask or we preemptively give them the mantra at a certain level.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 26, 2024 7:50 PM<br><b>To:</b> Even Rouault <even.rouault@spatialys.com><br><b>Cc:</b> System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo <sac@lists.osgeo.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Mantra, mon joli mantra, dis moi qui est la plus belle ?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>A popular alternative, and one available as a default in the discourse software we started using, is to trust email addresses from specific domains.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>A university or employer email address would serve the same purpose: do we have someone we can contact about your behaviour if needful?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We could start by trusting domain names from osgeo partners (for example).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Such a thing would not help folks using hotmail or gmail, but it would be something.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- -<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jody Garnett<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sep 26, 2024 at 3:17:27<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>PM, Even Rouault <<a href="mailto:even.rouault@spatialys.com">even.rouault@spatialys.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi,<br><br>at the risk of being perceived as a trouble maker, is there really <br>really no alternative to that ... odd... (I highly edited my original <br>wording) OSGeo initiation custom?<br><br>I mean: if you add together all the hours volunteers are spending <br>repeating again and again the same question ("please share a link to a <br>public page", et blabla et blabla), maybe a viable technical alternative <br>could have been found instead.<br><br>Or do we think that we are really doing "community bonding" by requiring <br>OSGeo incumbents to have to succeed in that step?<br><br>What are we trying to protect exactly? Spam to Trac wiki ? Well, easy, <br>let's kill Trac wiki. Hint: I just did it to GDAL. Problem solved here.<br><br>Even<br><br>-- <br><a href="http://www.spatialys.com">http://www.spatialys.com</a><br>My software is free, but my time generally not.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>