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    <p>Welcome Brian.</p>
    <p>I think you are suggesting excellent approaches to improving QGIS
      docs, which aligns with Jared's recommendations and suggestions
      from some of the other volunteers here. My  variant on the same
      theme is at [1].</p>
    <p>Matteo, Harrissou, With the momentum we are building, I think we
      have potential to grow QGIS documentation into new areas and
      expand the QGIS documentation roadmap. Would you be interested in
      setting up a meeting to discuss this? (Probably select a timeslot
      of evening in Australia, lunchtime in Europe). <br>
    </p>
    <p>Brian, Your OSGeo wiki should now be approved, so please do add
      your name to the list of contributors.<br>
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    <p>[1] <a
href="http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com/2019/04/amplifying-googles-season-of-docs.html">http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com/2019/04/amplifying-googles-season-of-docs.html</a></p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/5/19 12:36 pm, Brian McRae wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#0000ff">Hi All,</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#0000ff">I've been a
          member of the Aus-NZ-QGIS-group for a while, quietly receiving
          emails. I took up Cameron's invitation for volunteers to
          support the GSOD initiative yesterday. Since then, I've:</div>
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          <ul>
            <li>Read a few group emails (those that were sent since I
              joined)</li>
            <li>Scanned the rest of the <a
                href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/seasonofdocs/"
                moz-do-not-send="true">group messages to date</a> (mostly
              thread titles, just to get an idea of where the group has
              been / is up to)</li>
            <li>Perused Andrew's doc on <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eWpqmZHFiuoUhcCPcf9VTFrs2ol53A-Ha9in8sbiwlU/edit"
                moz-do-not-send="true">Getting started with QGIS
                documentation</a> (thanks to Cameron for the link; this
              looks quite helpful and I'll spend some more time with it)</li>
            <li>Read the OSGeo Wiki page <a
                href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Season_of_Docs_Ideas_2019"
                moz-do-not-send="true">Season of Docs Ideas 2019</a> (but
              not explored links, etc.)</li>
          </ul>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#0000ff">This has given
          me some ideas about the project, along with some questions,
          including a fair bit of uncertainty about what I might be
          wrong about and/or might be missing. I figured a 'hello' email
          would be a good start. I included links above as these might
          be useful to other people that join down the road. (One idea
          might be a 'welcome' email.)</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#0000ff">I haven't been
          able to get access to edit the Wiki yet, but my brief bio
          might read something like:</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#0000ff"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#0000ff"><i>Environmental
            scientist/planner/bureaucrat; IT hack most of my life
            (starting with TTY, paper tape and punchcards & 5.25"
            floppys); with a passion for understanding and improving
            systems, including relationships. This includes a few
            decades playing with various GIS packages, including the two
            main commercial offerings, as well as QGIS. Communication
            has been a key career theme, mostly about technical issues,
            for a range of audiences, using different mediums. I'm keen
            to use this opportunity to grow a bit - I haven't written
            documentation - and to express my deep appreciation for
            QGIS, and its community, by contributing.</i><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#0000ff"><i><br>
          </i></div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#0000ff">Regarding the
          SOD project, I'm struck by a relative absence in the
          discussion about 'audience' (a critical element for me in my
          writing experience). It does arise, as does the question of
          the larger landscape of resources (e.g. documentation,
          tutorials, etc.). As I've only scanned/perused the discussion
          to date, this observation may be unwarranted. In addition, as
          this project is still at the inception, I might be looking for
          too much structure. However, my thought process is along these
          lines:</div>
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          <ul>
            <li>The 'audience' (OSGEO users?) is huge/diverse, with
              varied needs</li>
            <li>Any attempt to provide a single solution (e.g. writing
              documentation for both newbies and experts) is destined to
              be a compromise and not serve either end of the spectrum
              ideally</li>
            <li>Fortunately, the FOSS/OSGEO/QGIS community contributes
              and creates lots of resources including some great blogs,
              forums such as StackExchange, etc.</li>
            <li>As a self-described IT-hack, when I have a question I
              typically do a Google search and the source/sources I
              often find most useful are not the 'official' QGIS
              documentation</li>
            <li>Some sort of 'portal' site, or at least a wiki-type
              facility within the documentation that supports the
              listing of links to other/external information sources,
              possibly with an opportunity of community contributions
              (comments), might be a useful contribution, or a component
              of one or more ideas/projects</li>
          </ul>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#0000ff">I wrote most of
          this yesterday, and then saw Jared's email, where he raised a
          lot of the questions on my mind, such as:</div>
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          <ul>
            <li>Do we have a learning vision</li>
            <li>What types of documentation do we want to create
              (including a list of categories from his current work:
              Tutorial, How-to, Discussion, Reference)</li>
            <li>Complemented by Matteo's earlier email in the thread
              about 3 main resources (QGIS user manual - explaining
              buttons; QGIS Training Manual; and PyGIS cookbook)</li>
            <li>Consulting <a
                href="https://www.qgis.org/en/docs/index.html"
                moz-do-not-send="true">QGIS Docs</a> I'd suggest
              Matteo's list of three QGIS resources (for users) should
              actually be:</li>
            <ul>
              <li>User Guide</li>
              <li>Training Manual; and</li>
              <li>A Gentle Introduction 'in' (to) QGIS</li>
            </ul>
            <li>These resources for Users are complemented by:</li>
            <ul>
              <li>Documentation Guidelines (for document writers); and</li>
              <li>Three resources for developers (including PyGIS
                Cookbook and the documentation for C++ and PyGIS APIs)</li>
            </ul>
            <li>What is the target persona (audience) - with a reply
              that I can't find indicating that the audience is to an
              extent unknown, but is also diverse (but I note the wiki
              ideas include some "WHY?" explanations that provide stats
              on common user complaints/suggestions - very
              important/useful IMHO)</li>
          </ul>
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              <div><font color="#0000ff"><span class="gmail_default"
                    style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">Apologies for the lengthy
                    post. My intent is mostly to add a hello, including
                    my observations as a new arrival to this process -
                    what the landscape looks like from my perspective. I
                    warned in my bio that I am oriented towards systems
                    thinking, but I'm bolstered by the fact that Jared,
                    as an experienced technical writer but new to GIS,
                    echoed some of my concerns.</span></font></div>
              <div><font color="#0000ff"><span class="gmail_default"
                    style="color:rgb(0,0,255)"><br>
                  </span></font></div>
              <div><font color="#0000ff"><span class="gmail_default"
                    style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">In summary, I think my
                    key point would be:</span></font></div>
              <div>
                <ul>
                  <li><font color="#0000ff"><span class="gmail_default"
                        style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">I think it is
                        important to have a clear context (overview),
                        notably the relationships between:</span></font></li>
                  <ul>
                    <li><font color="#0000ff"><span
                          class="gmail_default"
                          style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">Audience(s)</span></font></li>
                    <li><font color="#0000ff"><span
                          class="gmail_default"
                          style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">OSGEO/QGIS
                          documents/resources; and</span></font></li>
                    <li><font color="#0000ff"><span
                          class="gmail_default"
                          style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">Other external
                          documents/resources (including the <a
                            href="http://spatialquerylab.com/foss4g-academy-curriculum/"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">FOSS4G GeoAcademy
                            Curriculum</a>, and <a
                            href="https://www.qgistutorials.com/en/index.html"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">Ujaval Gandhi's
                            tutorials</a>, as well as <a
                            href="https://www.qgistutorials.com/en/docs/learning_resources.html"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">other resources he
                            lists</a>) </span></font></li>
                  </ul>
                </ul>
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              <div><font color="#0000ff"><span class="gmail_default"
                    style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">This understanding of the
                    landscape (need a map :-) potentially increases the
                    chance of creating useful content, whether by
                    providing clear direction for the revision of an
                    existing component or assisting with the
                    identification of gaps/opportunities, such as the
                    'portal' approach I suggest above. One resource (<a
href="https://feldynotebook.com/edges-of-the-feet-ay433/"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">FeldyNotebook</a>) I've
                    been involved in contributing to, whilst completely
                    unrelated in terms of subject matter and audience,
                    perhaps offers some useful concepts, such as:</span></font></div>
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                <ul>
                  <li><font color="#0000ff"><span class="gmail_default"
                        style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">A standard template
                        (subject headings)</span></font></li>
                  <li><font color="#0000ff"><span class="gmail_default"
                        style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">Cross-referencing</span></font></li>
                  <li><font color="#0000ff"><span class="gmail_default"
                        style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">External links</span></font></li>
                  <li><font color="#0000ff"><span class="gmail_default"
                        style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">Invitation for
                        comments</span></font></li>
                </ul>
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              <div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">Cheers, Brian</span></div>
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