<div dir="ltr">Hey guys,<br><br>This is Kyle Lobo, creator of
<a href="https://github.com/kylelobo/The-Documentation-Compendium/">The-Documentation-Compendium</a>. I've only recently been enlightened about
TheGoodDocsProject and I'm excited to be a part of it. <br><br>I've gone
through all the mailing lists concerning the project, and while I am
fully supportive of starting the project from scratch, one key benefit of joining and expanding my repo (or any other repo) would be that it
has over 2,500 stars, 20,000 views, and 8,000 unique visitors over the
past month. Since my repo revolves around documentation templates &
personal tips, these are people who visit the repo specifically for this
purpose.<br><br>This helps in getting a push from the get-go. The only
drawback to this is the fact that currently my repo is very basic and
lacks structure.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 1:06 PM Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Thanks Felicity, your message arrive just as I was sending mine
(I linked to your new doc).</p>
<p>I've connected with people from The lone Writers Guide and The
Documentation Compedium. Haven't yet connected with people from
the WriteTheDocs guide.<br>
</p>
<div class="gmail-m_-4051604198004410504moz-cite-prefix">On 29/6/19 5:17 pm, Felicity Brand
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Hi Gang,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I created a doc and invited you all to it. You should be
able to invite others to it as well...</div>
<div>I just collated the information mentioned in our emails so
far - so if I missed anything please add it in.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>Felicity</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 4:22
AM Riona Macnamara <<a href="mailto:rionam@google.com" target="_blank">rionam@google.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Another thing to consider is providing
resources that support writers and other documentarians in
their careers. For example:
<div>
<ul>
<li>Guidelines on how to measure and communicate the
value and impact of your documentation work:</li>
<ul>
<li>Reporting templates</li>
<li>Guidelines on using and interpreting Analytics
data (etc.)</li>
</ul>
<li>Doc sprint in a box</li>
<li>Doc plan templates</li>
<li>...</li>
</ul>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at
8:56 PM Stephanie Blotner <<a href="mailto:sblotner59@gmail.com" target="_blank">sblotner59@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Adding on to these ideas, I think a
combination of the following will be most effective:
<div>
<ul>
<li><b>Excellent examples</b> that follow the best
practices (which aligns with the development
practice of looking at a real-world working
example)</li>
<li><b>Templates</b> that make best practices easy
to implement (prevents the <a href="https://gifimage.net/blinking-cursor-gif-3/" target="_blank">blank
page anxiety</a>)</li>
<li><b>Guidance about how to uplevel your docs</b>
(for example, it's hard to write task-based docs
when you haven't identified your audience or
thought about what the tasks in the workflow are)</li>
</ul>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div>I'd be curious to collect/see data about open
source developer interest in "how to write good docs"
training. Starting with examples and templates is a
quick win. </div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 26, 2019
at 2:20 PM Riona Macnamara <<a href="mailto:rionam@google.com" target="_blank">rionam@google.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><a class="gmail_plusreply" id="gmail-m_-4051604198004410504gmail-m_-2727358765994007996gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462plusReplyChip-2" href="mailto:emckean@google.com" target="_blank">+Erin McKean</a> <br>
<div>Adding Erin McKean, who is doing a lot of work
around documentation guidelines and best practices
for open source projects at every stage of the
project lifecycle.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Sorry for brevity - have been in meetings
continually</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 26,
2019 at 3:26 PM Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>My brain dump additions to Felicity's
skeleton embedded below.</p>
<p>Felicity, you started a google doc earlier
with some of your ideas. Do you think we
should retask it to becoming the first draft
of our vision doc? <br>
</p>
<div class="gmail-m_-4051604198004410504gmail-m_-2727358765994007996gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424moz-cite-prefix">On
26/6/19 10:57 am, Felicity Brand wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">In the interest of starting
discussions, here goes:
<div>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">I
think articulating the goal is really
important, as is defining our
audience. This is going to drive
everything.</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p>We want to create a "best practices" guide
and associated suite of templates for creating
technical documentation for Open Source
Software projects (as our primary use case).
It will be almost directly applicable to all
software projects and we should aim to cater
for all software projects. It will be
reasonably applicable to broader technical
writing. While we should remain focused on our
core audience, we should consider writing our
documents such that they can be easily
customised and extended into other domains. <br>
</p>
<p>Borrowing from Open Government design
principles, we should "Do the hard work to
make things Simple".</p>
<p><a class="gmail-m_-4051604198004410504gmail-m_-2727358765994007996gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.gov.uk/guidance/government-design-principles#do-the-hard-work-to-make-it-simple" target="_blank">https://www.gov.uk/guidance/government-design-principles#do-the-hard-work-to-make-it-simple</a></p>
<p>Rather than each organisations attempting to
create their own writing guides, lets attract
the cross section of communication expertise
into one central community. Within our
community of communicators, we will debate and
decide upon best practices for a range of
documentation types.</p>
<p>We should capture a body of knowledge,
referencing the best research and guides we
can find. We should tailor components this
knowledge to specific user groups. We could
describe this as user stories. E.g.:<br>
</p>
<p>* As a software developer who needs to
document my project, I need a template, clear
writing instructions, and an example which I
can easily adapt of follow.</p>
<p>* As a documentarian reviewing a developer's
docs, I want guides and and checklists to
review against.</p>
<p>I our next doc down from the vision should
introduce the concept of a star rating for
docs. Huge value can be gifted to projects by
helping them get from the 1 star of "sort of
covered docs" to the 2 stars of having a
techie align docs with templates. This now
frees up tech writers to focus on the more
challenging tasks of polishing and tailoring
existing content.<br>
</p>
<p>...<br>
</p>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"> </p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">I've
briefly reviewed the excellent
resources that already exist that
people are pointing us to and my first
reaction is that:</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
I'm really interested to hear feedback on what
is good or bad about the source material we have
identified. Maybe create a list of our sources,
and then comment on elements which we would want
to bring into our master guide.<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"> </p>
<ul style="margin-left:0.375in;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:embed;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in" type="disc">
<li style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">We should start with the
assumption that good docs are
good. We don't need to bend over
backwards articulating why.</span></li>
<li style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">We don't need to train people
*how* to write good docs.</span></li>
<li style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">We just provide really
excellent templates and guidance
on how to apply them.</span></li>
</ul>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">That
is going to be the most useful and the
TL;DR option for folks who have a
messy open source project and want to
bring it up to scratch. They're
already motivated to improve their
docs.</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><br>
</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">We
could point people to other resources
if they want to dive deeper into the
whys and hows.</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p>Yes, and we might want to absorb and collate
the other resources into our own dedicated
sections.</p>
<p>We want to avoid saying "Want to learn more?
Go read these 10 books, research papers, and
blogs on the subject, and wade through tonnes
of crap in order to find the gems. There will
be a lot of value if we can increase the
signal-to-noise ratio for all our
stakeholders. (This is a slow burn activity).<br>
</p>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"> </p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">Things
like clarity, consistency, etc (the 5
C's) is something that most good tech
writers know, so why do we need to
articulate this again?</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p>I just googled the 5 C's. Apparently there
are 7.</p>
<p>Our first target audience are techies who are
writing docs (software developers and software
users). Many will be like me and won't know
the 5 C's, and won't need to know them if our
templates are good enough.<br>
</p>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">
Are we teaching folk to write? Give a
man a fish and you feed him for a day
but teach a man to fish and you feed
him for a lifetime. Are we teaching
people to fish? I wouldn't have
thought so... I think we're just
giving people fish templates. OR, to
strangle the metaphor further, giving
people a baited<span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="font-size:11pt">line in a
barrel full of fish. So they are far
more likely to succeed without
having to learn to fish in the first
place. <br>
</span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
Yes, maybe it is a case of "bring your barrel of
fish, we provide a stick of dynamite, you light
the fuse."<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:11pt"><br>
</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">So that's my
first reaction. Happy to discuss
further and I can't wait to see what
everyone else thinks!</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:11pt"><br>
</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">Cheers</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">Felicity</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue,
Jun 25, 2019 at 10:22 PM Cameron Shorter
<<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p>I'm feeling pretty special to be
amongst a bunch smart tech writers
who are keen create a "writing
templates" project (and a quite a
bit more).</p>
<p>Here is what I suggest we do next:</p>
<p>1. Over the next few weeks, lets
start discussions on this <a class="gmail-m_-4051604198004410504gmail-m_-2727358765994007996gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:SeasonOfDocs@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">SeasonOfDocs@lists.osgeo.org</a>
email list.</p>
<p>2. Between us, lets articulate our
vision. I suggest we bounce ideas
around on this list, and start
collecting them into a Google doc
that we collectively edit. I've been
getting inspired by each of you on
what this vision might be. We should
think big, but make sure our first
goals are very achievable.<br>
</p>
<p>3. Are there any existing projects
which we should join instead of
starting our own? <br>
</p>
<p>* Riona pointed to this project: <a href="https://github.com/kylelobo/The-Documentation-Compendium" target="_blank">https://github.com/kylelobo/The-Documentation-Compendium<br>
</a></p>
<p>* Stephanie pointed to: <a class="gmail-m_-4051604198004410504gmail-m_-2727358765994007996gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/San-Francisco-Write-The-Docs/lone-writers-guide" target="_blank">https://github.com/San-Francisco-Write-The-Docs/lone-writers-guide</a> </p>
<p>Does anyone know the people behind
these projects? We should reach out
to them. I'll be interested to hear
thoughts on these projects.</p>
<p>Lets discuss on email over the
upcoming week. Next week, lets aim
to decide if we are to join an
existing project or start our own.<br>
</p>
<p>4. I suggest we set up a meeting
next week with those of us who can
make it. Maybe:</p>
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<td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:medium none">Monday,
1 July 2019 at 11:00:00 pm</td>
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Time" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">BST</a></td>
<td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:medium none">UTC+1
hour</td>
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<td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:medium none">Tuesday,
2 July 2019 at 12:00:00
midnight</td>
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European Summer Time" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">CEST</a></td>
<td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:medium none">UTC+2
hours</td>
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<p>(I can do earlier or later.)<br>
</p>
<p>5. A few of you were wanting to get
clarifications from your
organisations about open sourcing
material. I suggest letting us know
how that progresses. This might help
<a href="http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com/2018/10/the-open-business-business-case.html" target="_blank">http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com/2018/10/the-open-business-business-case.html</a></p>
<p>6. If we decide to start our own
project, we will need to set up web
pages, project structure and so on.
If we join an existing project, we
will likely need to help them do
some of these things. We can start
in a week or two.</p>
<p>Okay, over to you. Please don't be
shy - share your ideas and
suggestions, and lets get this
vision nailed down.<br>
</p>
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