<div dir="ltr">Thanks Cameron!<div><br></div><div>Hi folks, I'm Erin, I've been at Google since this past October, working on templates to help developers create documentation for their open source projects. In my non-Google life I run Wordnik.com (a 501c3 nonprofit that is the world's biggest dictionary) and was previously editor in chief for American dictionaries for Oxford University Press, where I also was an acquiring editor for trade nonfiction language titles. I've published several non-dictionary books, including a novel, and intermittently blog about my sewing hobby. For fun, I run the Semicolon Appreciation Society (which involves mostly giving out Semicolon Appreciation Society stickers). </div><div><br></div><div>I am very excited about The Good Docs project -- while researching docs templates for open source, I've seen that there are lots of small collections of templates (usually for readmes and contributor information) but after that interest seems to die off. I think a bigger group with lots of different use cases could put together a broader set of templates for a wider audience as well as creating general good-docs guidance! </div><div><br></div><div>Also, as a mostly self-taught developer I selfishly want more and better documentation in the world so I can get better too. :) I've been involved with the OpenAPI (the spec formerly known as Swagger) for a while and am particularly interested in API documentation. </div><div><br></div><div>At this point I know I just want to be involved since there's so much that seems to overlap with my Actual Job, and I'm happy to see where the gaps might be and how I might be helpful in filling them! </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for including me!</div><div><br></div><div>Erin</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 1:26 PM Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Erin, you've been included in the invite to this meeting. Why
      don't you start by sending a brief email to this list to introduce
      yourself:</p>
    <p>Who are you? What is your interest in TheGoodDocsProject? How
      would you like to be involved?<br>
    </p>
    <div class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880moz-cite-prefix">On 29/6/19 4:22 am, Riona Macnamara
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      
      <div dir="ltr">Another thing to consider is providing resources
        that support writers and other documentarians in their careers.
        For example:
        <div>
          <ul>
            <li>Guidelines on how to measure and communicate the value
              and impact of your documentation work:</li>
            <ul>
              <li>Reporting templates</li>
              <li>Guidelines on using and interpreting Analytics data
                (etc.)</li>
            </ul>
            <li>Doc sprint in a box</li>
            <li>Doc plan templates</li>
            <li>...</li>
          </ul>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 8:56
          PM Stephanie Blotner <<a href="mailto:sblotner59@gmail.com" target="_blank">sblotner59@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
        </div>
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          <div dir="ltr">Adding on to these ideas, I think a combination
            of the following will be most effective:
            <div>
              <ul>
                <li><b>Excellent examples</b> that follow the best
                  practices (which aligns with the development practice
                  of looking at a real-world working example)</li>
                <li><b>Templates</b> that make best practices easy to
                  implement (prevents the <a href="https://gifimage.net/blinking-cursor-gif-3/" target="_blank">blank page
                    anxiety</a>)</li>
                <li><b>Guidance about how to uplevel your docs</b> (for
                  example, it's hard to write task-based docs when you
                  haven't identified your audience or thought about what
                  the tasks in the workflow are)</li>
              </ul>
              <div><br>
              </div>
            </div>
            <div>I'd be curious to collect/see data about open source
              developer interest in "how to write good docs" training.
              Starting with examples and templates is a quick win. </div>
          </div>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">
            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at
              2:20 PM Riona Macnamara <<a href="mailto:rionam@google.com" target="_blank">rionam@google.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr"><a class="gmail_plusreply" id="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462plusReplyChip-2" href="mailto:emckean@google.com" target="_blank">+Erin McKean</a> <br>
                <div>Adding Erin McKean, who is doing a lot of work
                  around documentation guidelines and best practices for
                  open source projects at every stage of the project
                  lifecycle.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Sorry for brevity - have been in meetings
                  continually</div>
              </div>
              <br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">
                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 26, 2019
                  at 3:26 PM Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
                </div>
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                  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                    <p>My brain dump additions to Felicity's skeleton
                      embedded below.</p>
                    <p>Felicity, you started a google doc earlier with
                      some of your ideas. Do you think we should retask
                      it to becoming the first draft of our vision doc?
                      <br>
                    </p>
                    <div class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424moz-cite-prefix">On
                      26/6/19 10:57 am, Felicity Brand wrote:<br>
                    </div>
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                      <div dir="ltr">
                        <div dir="ltr">In the interest of starting
                          discussions, here goes:
                          <div>
                            <p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">I
                              think articulating the goal is really
                              important, as is defining our audience.
                              This is going to drive everything.</p>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <p>We want to create a "best practices" guide and
                      associated suite of templates for creating
                      technical documentation for Open Source Software
                      projects (as our primary use case). It will be
                      almost directly applicable to all software
                      projects and we should aim to cater for all
                      software projects. It will be reasonably
                      applicable to broader technical writing. While we
                      should remain focused on our core audience, we
                      should consider writing our documents such that
                      they can be easily customised and extended into
                      other domains. <br>
                    </p>
                    <p>Borrowing from Open Government design principles,
                      we should "Do the hard work to make things
                      Simple".</p>
                    <p><a class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.gov.uk/guidance/government-design-principles#do-the-hard-work-to-make-it-simple" target="_blank">https://www.gov.uk/guidance/government-design-principles#do-the-hard-work-to-make-it-simple</a></p>
                    <p>Rather than each organisations attempting to
                      create their own writing guides, lets attract the
                      cross section of communication expertise into one
                      central community. Within our community of
                      communicators, we will debate and decide upon best
                      practices for a range of documentation types.</p>
                    <p>We should capture a body of knowledge,
                      referencing the best research and guides we can
                      find. We should tailor components this knowledge
                      to specific user groups. We could describe this as
                      user stories. E.g.:<br>
                    </p>
                    <p>* As a software developer who needs to document
                      my project, I need a template, clear writing
                      instructions, and an example which I can easily
                      adapt of follow.</p>
                    <p>* As a documentarian reviewing a developer's
                      docs, I want guides and and checklists to review
                      against.</p>
                    <p>I our next doc down from the vision should
                      introduce the concept of a star rating for docs.
                      Huge value can be gifted to projects by helping
                      them get from the 1 star of "sort of covered docs"
                      to the 2 stars of having a techie align docs with
                      templates. This now frees up tech writers to focus
                      on the more challenging tasks of polishing and
                      tailoring existing content.<br>
                    </p>
                    <p>...<br>
                    </p>
                    <blockquote type="cite">
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                            <p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"> </p>
                            <p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">I've
                              briefly reviewed the excellent resources
                              that already exist that people are
                              pointing us to and my first reaction is
                              that:</p>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    I'm really interested to hear feedback on what is
                    good or bad about the source material we have
                    identified. Maybe create a list of our sources, and
                    then comment on elements which we would want to
                    bring into our master guide.<br>
                    <blockquote type="cite">
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                        <div dir="ltr">
                          <div>
                            <p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"> </p>
                            <ul style="margin-left:0.375in;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:embed;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in" type="disc">
                              <li style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">We should start with the
                                  assumption that good docs are good. We
                                  don't need to bend over backwards
                                  articulating why.</span></li>
                              <li style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">We don't need to train people
                                  *how* to write good docs.</span></li>
                              <li style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">We just provide really
                                  excellent templates and guidance on
                                  how to apply them.</span></li>
                            </ul>
                            <p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">That
                              is going to be the most useful and the
                              TL;DR option for folks who have a messy
                              open source project and want to bring it
                              up to scratch. They're already motivated
                              to improve their docs.</p>
                            <p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><br>
                            </p>
                            <p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">We
                              could point people to other resources if
                              they want to dive deeper into the whys and
                              hows.</p>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <p>Yes, and we might want to absorb and collate the
                      other resources into our own dedicated sections.</p>
                    <p>We want to avoid saying "Want to learn more? Go
                      read these 10 books, research papers, and blogs on
                      the subject, and wade through tonnes of crap in
                      order to find the gems. There will be a lot of
                      value if we can increase the signal-to-noise ratio
                      for all our stakeholders. (This is a slow burn
                      activity).<br>
                    </p>
                    <blockquote type="cite">
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                        <div dir="ltr">
                          <div>
                            <p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"> </p>
                            <p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">Things
                              like clarity, consistency, etc (the 5 C's)
                              is something that most good tech writers
                              know, so why do we need to articulate this
                              again?</p>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <p>I just googled the 5 C's. Apparently there are 7.</p>
                    <p>Our first target audience are techies who are
                      writing docs (software developers and software
                      users). Many will be like me and won't know the 5
                      C's, and won't need to know them if our templates
                      are good enough.<br>
                    </p>
                    <blockquote type="cite">
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                        <div dir="ltr">
                          <div>
                            <p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">
                              Are we teaching folk to write? Give a man
                              a fish and you feed him for a day but
                              teach a man to fish and you feed him for a
                              lifetime. Are we teaching people to fish?
                              I wouldn't have thought so... I think
                              we're just giving people fish templates.
                              OR, to strangle the metaphor further,
                              giving people a baited<span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="font-size:11pt">line in a barrel
                                full of fish. So they are far more
                                likely to succeed without having to
                                learn to fish in the first place. <br>
                              </span></p>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    Yes, maybe it is a case of "bring your barrel of
                    fish, we provide a stick of dynamite, you light the
                    fuse."<br>
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                          <div>
                            <p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:11pt"><br>
                              </span></p>
                            <p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">So that's my
                                first reaction. Happy to discuss further
                                and I can't wait to see what everyone
                                else thinks!</span></p>
                            <p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:11pt"><br>
                              </span></p>
                            <p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">Cheers</span></p>
                            <p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">Felicity</span></p>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <br>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">
                          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun
                            25, 2019 at 10:22 PM Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
                            wrote:<br>
                          </div>
                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                              <p>I'm feeling pretty special to be
                                amongst a bunch smart tech writers who
                                are keen create a "writing templates"
                                project (and a quite a bit more).</p>
                              <p>Here is what I suggest we do next:</p>
                              <p>1. Over the next few weeks, lets start
                                discussions on this <a class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:SeasonOfDocs@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">SeasonOfDocs@lists.osgeo.org</a>
                                email list.</p>
                              <p>2. Between us, lets articulate our
                                vision. I suggest we bounce ideas around
                                on this list, and start collecting them
                                into a Google doc that we collectively
                                edit. I've been getting inspired by each
                                of you on what this vision might be. We
                                should think big, but make sure our
                                first goals are very achievable.<br>
                              </p>
                              <p>3. Are there any existing projects
                                which we should join instead of starting
                                our own? <br>
                              </p>
                              <p>* Riona pointed to this project: <a href="https://github.com/kylelobo/The-Documentation-Compendium" target="_blank">https://github.com/kylelobo/The-Documentation-Compendium<br>
                                </a></p>
                              <p>* Stephanie pointed to: <a class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/San-Francisco-Write-The-Docs/lone-writers-guide" target="_blank">https://github.com/San-Francisco-Write-The-Docs/lone-writers-guide</a> </p>
                              <p>Does anyone know the people behind
                                these projects? We should reach out to
                                them. I'll be interested to hear
                                thoughts on these projects.</p>
                              <p>Lets discuss on email over the upcoming
                                week. Next week, lets aim to decide if
                                we are to join an existing project or
                                start our own.<br>
                              </p>
                              <p>4. I suggest we set up a meeting next
                                week with those of us who can make it.
                                Maybe:</p>
                              <table class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442xpad gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442border2" style="box-sizing:border-box;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-align:left;border:1px solid rgb(221,221,221);color:rgb(69,69,69);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
                                <thead style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:left"><tr class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442head" style="box-sizing:border-box">
                                    <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:5px 9px;text-align:left">Location</th>
                                    <th class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442sep" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:5px 9px;text-align:left;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)">Local Time</th>
                                    <th class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442sep" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:5px 9px;text-align:left;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)">Time Zone</th>
                                    <th class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442sep" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:5px 9px;text-align:left;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)">UTC Offset</th>
                                  </tr>
                                </thead><tbody style="box-sizing:border-box">
                                  <tr class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442c0" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/australia/sydney" title="Current local time in
                                        Sydney" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">Sydney</a><span> </span><span class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442small" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-size:12.6px">(Australia - New South
                                        Wales)</span></td>
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">Tuesday,
                                      2 July 2019 at 8:00:00 am</td>
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/aest" title="Australian
                                        Eastern Standard Time" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">AEST</a></td>
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">UTC+10
                                      hours</td>
                                  </tr>
                                  <tr class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442c1" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:rgb(243,243,243);border-top:1px solid rgb(221,221,221);border-bottom:1px solid rgb(221,221,221)">
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/austin" title="Current
                                        local time in Austin" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">Austin</a><span> </span><span class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442small" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-size:12.6px">(USA - Texas)</span></td>
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">Monday,
                                      1 July 2019 at 5:00:00 pm</td>
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/cdt" title="Central
                                        Daylight Time" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">CDT</a></td>
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">UTC-5
                                      hours</td>
                                  </tr>
                                  <tr class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442c0" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/new-york" title="Current local time in New
                                        York" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">New York</a><span> </span><span class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442small" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-size:12.6px">(USA - New York)</span></td>
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">Monday,
                                      1 July 2019 at 6:00:00 pm</td>
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/edt" title="Eastern
                                        Daylight Time" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">EDT</a></td>
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">UTC-4
                                      hours</td>
                                  </tr>
                                  <tr class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442c1" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:rgb(243,243,243);border-top:1px solid rgb(221,221,221);border-bottom:1px solid rgb(221,221,221)">
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/uk/london" title="Current
                                        local time in London" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">London</a><span> </span><span class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442small" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-size:12.6px">(United Kingdom -
                                        England)</span></td>
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">Monday,
                                      1 July 2019 at 11:00:00 pm</td>
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/bst" title="British Summer
                                        Time" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">BST</a></td>
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">UTC+1
                                      hour</td>
                                  </tr>
                                  <tr class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442c0" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/france/paris" title="Current local time in
                                        Paris" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">Paris</a><span> </span><span class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442small" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-size:12.6px">(France - Île-de-France)</span></td>
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">Tuesday,
                                      2 July 2019 at 12:00:00 midnight</td>
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none"><a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/cest" title="Central
                                        European Summer Time" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">CEST</a></td>
                                    <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:none">UTC+2
                                      hours</td>
                                  </tr>
                                </tbody>
                              </table>
                              <p>(I can do earlier or later.)<br>
                              </p>
                              <p>5. A few of you were wanting to get
                                clarifications from your organisations
                                about open sourcing material. I suggest
                                letting us know how that progresses.
                                This might help <a href="http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com/2018/10/the-open-business-business-case.html" target="_blank">http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com/2018/10/the-open-business-business-case.html</a></p>
                              <p>6. If we decide to start our own
                                project, we will need to set up web
                                pages, project structure and so on. If
                                we join an existing project, we will
                                likely need to help them do some of
                                these things. We can start in a week or
                                two.</p>
                              <p>Okay, over to you. Please don't be shy
                                - share your ideas and suggestions, and
                                lets get this vision nailed down.<br>
                              </p>
                              <div class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442moz-cite-prefix">On
                                25/6/19 9:09 am, Riona Macnamara wrote:<br>
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                                <div dir="ltr">Have you seen this? </div>
                                <br>
                              </blockquote>
                              <pre class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442moz-signature" cols="72">Cameron Shorter
Technology Demystifier
Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant

M +61 (0) 419 142 254</pre>
                            </div>
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Cameron Shorter
Technology Demystifier
Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant

M +61 (0) 419 142 254</pre>
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              <div>Stephanie Blotner</div>
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    <pre class="gmail-m_1947917519108891880moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Cameron Shorter
Technology Demystifier
Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant

M +61 (0) 419 142 254</pre>
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