<div dir="ltr">Sounds good.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 5:38 PM Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi Kyle,</p>
<p>It is great to hear that you have generated so much interest for
the Documentation Compendium. It shows there is a lot of interest
out there. If you are around, it would be good to discuss with you
tomorrow in the #plan channel on <a href="https://thegooddocs.slack.com/messages" target="_blank">https://thegooddocs.slack.com</a>
at say <a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2019&month=7&day=1&hour=10&min=0&sec=0&p1=240&p2=44" target="_blank">https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2019&month=7&day=1&hour=10&min=0&sec=0&p1=240&p2=44</a></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div class="gmail-m_-1521733254227270067moz-cite-prefix">On 30/6/19 10:12 am, Kyle Lobo wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Hey guys,<br>
<br>
This is Kyle Lobo, creator of <a href="https://github.com/kylelobo/The-Documentation-Compendium/" target="_blank">The-Documentation-Compendium</a>. I've
only recently been enlightened about TheGoodDocsProject and I'm
excited to be a part of it. <br>
<br>
I've gone through all the mailing lists concerning the project,
and while I am fully supportive of starting the project from
scratch, one key benefit of joining and expanding my repo (or
any other repo) would be that it has over 2,500 stars, 20,000
views, and 8,000 unique visitors over the past month. Since my
repo revolves around documentation templates & personal
tips, these are people who visit the repo specifically for this
purpose.<br>
<br>
This helps in getting a push from the get-go. The only drawback
to this is the fact that currently my repo is very basic and
lacks structure.</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 1:06
PM Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
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<p>Thanks Felicity, your message arrive just as I was
sending mine (I linked to your new doc).</p>
<p>I've connected with people from The lone Writers Guide
and The Documentation Compedium. Haven't yet connected
with people from the WriteTheDocs guide.<br>
</p>
<div class="gmail-m_-1521733254227270067gmail-m_-4051604198004410504moz-cite-prefix">On
29/6/19 5:17 pm, Felicity Brand wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Hi Gang,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I created a doc and invited you all to it. You
should be able to invite others to it as well...</div>
<div>I just collated the information mentioned in our
emails so far - so if I missed anything please add it
in.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>Felicity</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 29, 2019
at 4:22 AM Riona Macnamara <<a href="mailto:rionam@google.com" target="_blank">rionam@google.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Another thing to consider is providing
resources that support writers and other
documentarians in their careers. For example:
<div>
<ul>
<li>Guidelines on how to measure and communicate
the value and impact of your documentation
work:</li>
<ul>
<li>Reporting templates</li>
<li>Guidelines on using and interpreting
Analytics data (etc.)</li>
</ul>
<li>Doc sprint in a box</li>
<li>Doc plan templates</li>
<li>...</li>
</ul>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 26,
2019 at 8:56 PM Stephanie Blotner <<a href="mailto:sblotner59@gmail.com" target="_blank">sblotner59@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Adding on to these ideas, I think a
combination of the following will be most
effective:
<div>
<ul>
<li><b>Excellent examples</b> that follow
the best practices (which aligns with the
development practice of looking at a
real-world working example)</li>
<li><b>Templates</b> that make best
practices easy to implement (prevents the
<a href="https://gifimage.net/blinking-cursor-gif-3/" target="_blank">blank
page anxiety</a>)</li>
<li><b>Guidance about how to uplevel your
docs</b> (for example, it's hard to
write task-based docs when you haven't
identified your audience or thought about
what the tasks in the workflow are)</li>
</ul>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div>I'd be curious to collect/see data about
open source developer interest in "how to
write good docs" training. Starting with
examples and templates is a quick win. </div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun
26, 2019 at 2:20 PM Riona Macnamara <<a href="mailto:rionam@google.com" target="_blank">rionam@google.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><a class="gmail_plusreply" id="gmail-m_-1521733254227270067gmail-m_-4051604198004410504gmail-m_-2727358765994007996gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462plusReplyChip-2" href="mailto:emckean@google.com" target="_blank">+Erin
McKean</a> <br>
<div>Adding Erin McKean, who is doing a lot
of work around documentation guidelines
and best practices for open source
projects at every stage of the project
lifecycle.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Sorry for brevity - have been in
meetings continually</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed,
Jun 26, 2019 at 3:26 PM Cameron Shorter
<<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
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<p>My brain dump additions to Felicity's
skeleton embedded below.</p>
<p>Felicity, you started a google doc
earlier with some of your ideas. Do
you think we should retask it to
becoming the first draft of our vision
doc? <br>
</p>
<div class="gmail-m_-1521733254227270067gmail-m_-4051604198004410504gmail-m_-2727358765994007996gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424moz-cite-prefix">On
26/6/19 10:57 am, Felicity Brand
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">In the interest of
starting discussions, here goes:
<div>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">I
think articulating the goal is
really important, as is
defining our audience. This is
going to drive everything.</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p>We want to create a "best practices"
guide and associated suite of
templates for creating technical
documentation for Open Source Software
projects (as our primary use case). It
will be almost directly applicable to
all software projects and we should
aim to cater for all software
projects. It will be reasonably
applicable to broader technical
writing. While we should remain
focused on our core audience, we
should consider writing our documents
such that they can be easily
customised and extended into other
domains. <br>
</p>
<p>Borrowing from Open Government design
principles, we should "Do the hard
work to make things Simple".</p>
<p><a class="gmail-m_-1521733254227270067gmail-m_-4051604198004410504gmail-m_-2727358765994007996gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.gov.uk/guidance/government-design-principles#do-the-hard-work-to-make-it-simple" target="_blank">https://www.gov.uk/guidance/government-design-principles#do-the-hard-work-to-make-it-simple</a></p>
<p>Rather than each organisations
attempting to create their own writing
guides, lets attract the cross section
of communication expertise into one
central community. Within our
community of communicators, we will
debate and decide upon best practices
for a range of documentation types.</p>
<p>We should capture a body of
knowledge, referencing the best
research and guides we can find. We
should tailor components this
knowledge to specific user groups. We
could describe this as user stories.
E.g.:<br>
</p>
<p>* As a software developer who needs
to document my project, I need a
template, clear writing instructions,
and an example which I can easily
adapt of follow.</p>
<p>* As a documentarian reviewing a
developer's docs, I want guides and
and checklists to review against.</p>
<p>I our next doc down from the vision
should introduce the concept of a star
rating for docs. Huge value can be
gifted to projects by helping them get
from the 1 star of "sort of covered
docs" to the 2 stars of having a
techie align docs with templates. This
now frees up tech writers to focus on
the more challenging tasks of
polishing and tailoring existing
content.<br>
</p>
<p>...<br>
</p>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"> </p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">I've
briefly reviewed the excellent
resources that already exist
that people are pointing us to
and my first reaction is that:</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
I'm really interested to hear feedback
on what is good or bad about the source
material we have identified. Maybe
create a list of our sources, and then
comment on elements which we would want
to bring into our master guide.<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"> </p>
<ul style="margin-left:0.375in;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:embed;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in" type="disc">
<li style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">We should start with the
assumption that good docs
are good. We don't need to
bend over backwards
articulating why.</span></li>
<li style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">We don't need to train people
*how* to write good docs.</span></li>
<li style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;vertical-align:middle"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">We just provide really
excellent templates and
guidance on how to apply
them.</span></li>
</ul>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">That
is going to be the most useful
and the TL;DR option for folks
who have a messy open source
project and want to bring it
up to scratch. They're already
motivated to improve their
docs.</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><br>
</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">We
could point people to other
resources if they want to dive
deeper into the whys and hows.</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p>Yes, and we might want to absorb and
collate the other resources into our
own dedicated sections.</p>
<p>We want to avoid saying "Want to
learn more? Go read these 10 books,
research papers, and blogs on the
subject, and wade through tonnes of
crap in order to find the gems. There
will be a lot of value if we can
increase the signal-to-noise ratio for
all our stakeholders. (This is a slow
burn activity).<br>
</p>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"> </p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">Things
like clarity, consistency, etc
(the 5 C's) is something that
most good tech writers know,
so why do we need to
articulate this again?</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p>I just googled the 5 C's. Apparently
there are 7.</p>
<p>Our first target audience are techies
who are writing docs (software
developers and software users). Many
will be like me and won't know the 5
C's, and won't need to know them if
our templates are good enough.<br>
</p>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">
Are we teaching folk to write?
Give a man a fish and you feed
him for a day but teach a man
to fish and you feed him for a
lifetime. Are we teaching
people to fish? I wouldn't
have thought so... I think
we're just giving people fish
templates. OR, to strangle the
metaphor further, giving
people a baited<span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="font-size:11pt">line
in a barrel full of fish. So
they are far more likely to
succeed without having to
learn to fish in the first
place. <br>
</span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
Yes, maybe it is a case of "bring your
barrel of fish, we provide a stick of
dynamite, you light the fuse."<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:11pt"><br>
</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">So
that's my first reaction.
Happy to discuss further and
I can't wait to see what
everyone else thinks!</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:11pt"><br>
</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">Cheers</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.375in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">Felicity</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:22 PM
Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>I'm feeling pretty special
to be amongst a bunch smart
tech writers who are keen
create a "writing templates"
project (and a quite a bit
more).</p>
<p>Here is what I suggest we
do next:</p>
<p>1. Over the next few weeks,
lets start discussions on
this <a class="gmail-m_-1521733254227270067gmail-m_-4051604198004410504gmail-m_-2727358765994007996gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:SeasonOfDocs@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">SeasonOfDocs@lists.osgeo.org</a>
email list.</p>
<p>2. Between us, lets
articulate our vision. I
suggest we bounce ideas
around on this list, and
start collecting them into a
Google doc that we
collectively edit. I've been
getting inspired by each of
you on what this vision
might be. We should think
big, but make sure our first
goals are very achievable.<br>
</p>
<p>3. Are there any existing
projects which we should
join instead of starting our
own? <br>
</p>
<p>* Riona pointed to this
project: <a href="https://github.com/kylelobo/The-Documentation-Compendium" target="_blank">https://github.com/kylelobo/The-Documentation-Compendium<br>
</a></p>
<p>* Stephanie pointed to: <a class="gmail-m_-1521733254227270067gmail-m_-4051604198004410504gmail-m_-2727358765994007996gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/San-Francisco-Write-The-Docs/lone-writers-guide" target="_blank">https://github.com/San-Francisco-Write-The-Docs/lone-writers-guide</a> </p>
<p>Does anyone know the people
behind these projects? We
should reach out to them.
I'll be interested to hear
thoughts on these projects.</p>
<p>Lets discuss on email over
the upcoming week. Next
week, lets aim to decide if
we are to join an existing
project or start our own.<br>
</p>
<p>4. I suggest we set up a
meeting next week with those
of us who can make it.
Maybe:</p>
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<td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:medium none">UTC-5 hours</td>
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<tr class="gmail-m_-1521733254227270067gmail-m_-4051604198004410504gmail-m_-2727358765994007996gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442c0" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:medium none"><a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/new-york" title="Current local
time in New York" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">New
York</a><span> </span><span class="gmail-m_-1521733254227270067gmail-m_-4051604198004410504gmail-m_-2727358765994007996gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442small" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-size:12.6px">(USA - New York)</span></td>
<td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:medium none">Monday, 1 July
2019 at 6:00:00 pm</td>
<td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:medium none"><a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/edt" title="Eastern
Daylight Time" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">EDT</a></td>
<td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:medium none">UTC-4 hours</td>
</tr>
<tr class="gmail-m_-1521733254227270067gmail-m_-4051604198004410504gmail-m_-2727358765994007996gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442c1" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:rgb(243,243,243);border-top:1px solid rgb(221,221,221);border-bottom:1px solid rgb(221,221,221)">
<td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:medium none"><a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/uk/london" title="Current local
time in London" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">London</a><span> </span><span class="gmail-m_-1521733254227270067gmail-m_-4051604198004410504gmail-m_-2727358765994007996gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442small" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-size:12.6px">(United Kingdom -
England)</span></td>
<td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:medium none">Monday, 1 July
2019 at 11:00:00 pm</td>
<td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:medium none"><a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/bst" title="British
Summer Time" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">BST</a></td>
<td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:medium none">UTC+1 hour</td>
</tr>
<tr class="gmail-m_-1521733254227270067gmail-m_-4051604198004410504gmail-m_-2727358765994007996gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442c0" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:medium none"><a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/france/paris" title="Current local
time in Paris" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">Paris</a><span> </span><span class="gmail-m_-1521733254227270067gmail-m_-4051604198004410504gmail-m_-2727358765994007996gmail-m_2885298867102351280gmail-m_4523877391047477462gmail-m_-123214357487461424gmail-m_3584686751867454442small" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-size:12.6px">(France - Île-de-France)</span></td>
<td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:medium none">Tuesday, 2 July
2019 at 12:00:00
midnight</td>
<td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:medium none"><a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/cest" title="Central
European Summer
Time" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(85,107,181);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">CEST</a></td>
<td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.4em;vertical-align:top;border:medium none">UTC+2 hours</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p>(I can do earlier or
later.)<br>
</p>
<p>5. A few of you were
wanting to get
clarifications from your
organisations about open
sourcing material. I suggest
letting us know how that
progresses. This might help
<a href="http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com/2018/10/the-open-business-business-case.html" target="_blank">http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com/2018/10/the-open-business-business-case.html</a></p>
<p>6. If we decide to start
our own project, we will
need to set up web pages,
project structure and so on.
If we join an existing
project, we will likely need
to help them do some of
these things. We can start
in a week or two.</p>
<p>Okay, over to you. Please
don't be shy - share your
ideas and suggestions, and
lets get this vision nailed
down.<br>
</p>
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