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<p>Erin, there is a subtle but important concept of ownership of IP
which should be discussed with supporting organisations.</p>
<p>Either each person owns their own contribution, or each person
gives their ownership rights to a legal entity such as Apache.
(This means Apache can then re-assign copyright if needed.)<br>
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<p>This is the question to put to the lawyers. <br>
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<p>Cheers, Cameron<br>
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<div dir="ltr">If all contributions are licensed under CC-BY or
CC-0 or 0BSD then there's no remaining copyright issues afaik
(since the relevant rights have been released under the
license)? (Obligatory IANAL here)
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<div>I will ask, but probably won't be able to until I'm back
from OSCON ...
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<div>Thanks!</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Makes sense. In my experience, companies are
more worried about the license of the content than the
copyright (most OSS in general is owned by private
individuals or other corporations). WTD doesn't own any
source code historically of value that we'd want to
relicense, so copyright ownership hasn't been something
we've been worried about.
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<p>Thanks Eric for the info,</p>
<p>It is a pity WriteTheDocs isn't a non-profit, but I
understand the challenges with setting up a
not-for-profit - the OSGeo Foundation went through a
lot of heartache going through the process.</p>
<p>While it would be great if were legally under the
umbrella of WriteTheDocs, I suspect that being under
the umbrella of a not-for-profit entity will be
important for potential contributors from big
companies.</p>
<p>I'm open to suggestions on who we should reach out to
here.</p>
<p>Cheers, Cameron<br>
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<div dir="ltr">WTD info is documented here: <a
href="http://www.writethedocs.org/about-us/#legal-entity"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.writethedocs.org/about-us/#legal-entity</a> --
so, if you're looking for a non-profit organization,
we're not one at the moment. It might be in the
cards eventually, but it likely doesn't make sense
for us currently.
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<div>We don't do any copyright assignment, so each
person owns their own contributions on our site. <br>
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<div>Eric</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Folks,
<div>We should consider which legal entity will
own the material we create.</div>
<div>People or a legal entity will own artifacts
we create and others can use the artifact
under the terms of the license.</div>
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<div>As I understand it, our options are:</div>
<div>* Every contributor owns their personal
contribution. This makes it very difficult to
relicense a collective work in future, which
has pros and cons.</div>
<div>* More common is to assign ownership to a
trustworthy non-profit foundation, (such as
the Apache Foundation, Open Source Foundation,
or Open Source Geospatial Foundation).</div>
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<div>I'm in favour of selecting a suitable
foundation to assign our copyright to and
would like to hear suggestions. I suspect the
legal structure behind WriteTheDocs would be
good.</div>
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status of WriteTheDocs? Or are you able to put
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