<div dir="ltr">Thanks Cameron! Sorry, I didn't mean to block. I can change to a 0 for now and try to get more info about the disapproval of DCOs next week!<div><br></div><div>Thanks!<br><br></div><div>Erin</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 12:25 PM Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p>Hi Erin, would you mind expanding your reasoning for the -1.
Typically if you vote -1 (considered a blocking vote), then the
onus is on you to explain what it would take to change to vote to
a non-blocking vote.</p>
<p>If Google legal are mildly against, then I suggest change to a -0
("I prefer not, and this is why ...").</p>
<p>I'm hoping Google legal can present us with a case which
addresses the concerns we have about introducing a high barrier to
entry for non-technical contributors, noting that we don't have a
legal entity to make use of.</p>
<p>I'd be happy to join a hangouts meeting with them, which I
suspect would be helpful.</p>
<p>Cheers, Cameron<br>
</p>
<div class="gmail-m_-4840173091000831066moz-cite-prefix">On 3/8/19 5:04 am, Erin McKean wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">-1 (Google legal prefers not to use DCOs ...) </div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 1:40 PM
Jared Morgan <<a href="mailto:jaredleonmorgan@gmail.com" target="_blank">jaredleonmorgan@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto">+1 </div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri., 2 Aug. 2019,
02:24 Stephanie Blotner, <<a href="mailto:sblotner59@gmail.com" target="_blank">sblotner59@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">+1<br>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at
6:11 AM Clarence Cromwell <<a href="mailto:clarencewcromwell@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">clarencewcromwell@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto">+1 on developer’s certificate
<div>+1 on Doctopus</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Doctopus would be a more memorable name for the
project itself.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Quills and books are clear identifiers, but we
can also have an Octopus with something more
modern like a keyboard. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
<br>
<div id="gmail-m_-4840173091000831066gmail-m_876474673461073053m_8080669636547874847gmail-m_2511313783952186938AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
On Aug 1, 2019, at 2:39 AM, Felicity Brand <<a href="mailto:felicitybrand@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">felicitybrand@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">+1<br>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu,
Aug 1, 2019 at 7:03 PM Sanket Totewar <<a href="mailto:sanket@totewar.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sanket@totewar.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">+1<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 5:59 PM Jo Cook
<<a href="mailto:jo.k.cook@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">jo.k.cook@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">+1<br>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 11:23 PM
Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div>Following on from our
meeting yesterday, and this
email thread, and our
meeting yesterday, I'm
breaking this discussion
into two motions to vote on.<br>
</div>
<br class="gmail-m_-4840173091000831066gmail-m_876474673461073053m_8080669636547874847gmail-m_2511313783952186938gmail-m_656203185599005564gmail-m_-2830453120098355481gmail-m_5544526965887396080gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">
</div>
<div>Motion 1: I propose that
TheGoodDocsProject adopt the
"Developer Certificate of
Origin", current at version
1.0, as our Contributor
License Agreement:</div>
<div><a href="https://developercertificate.org/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer
noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://developercertificate.org/</a> <br>
</div>
<div>(This motion doesn't extend
to how we implement).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>+1 Cameron<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed,
31 Jul 2019 at 06:11, Erin
McKean <<a href="mailto:emckean@google.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">emckean@google.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">I did a
little digging -- I think
we could get a lightweight
CLA with <a href="https://github.com/cla-assistant/cla-assistant" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/cla-assistant/cla-assistant</a> which
allows for signing CLAs
right inside pull
requests. I'm happy to
volunteer to set it up if
we decide to go this way.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cameron has an
excellent point about us
already having the most
permissive license. :) </div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at
1:05 PM Jo Cook <<a href="mailto:jo.k.cook@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">jo.k.cook@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>I'm in favour of
4, which could be
made even better by
adding it to a pull
request template.
That way even people
who contribute by
editing a file in
the github interface
will see it, whether
they like it or not!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Jo<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at
7:24 PM Sanket
Totewar <<a href="mailto:sanket@totewar.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sanket@totewar.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div dir="auto">I
like 3.
Seamless... But
happy with 4 or
5 too.</div>
</div>
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
Tue, 30 Jul
2019 at 22:37,
Jared Morgan
<<a href="mailto:jaredleonmorgan@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">jaredleonmorgan@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto">I'd
be OK with 4
if necessary
and definitely
5. </div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue., 30 Jul. 2019, 21:28 Cameron Shorter, <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">From
my recent
reading:
<div>There are
a few variants
of CLAs.</div>
<div>1.
Developers/Employers
assign their
code ownership
to an entity -
typically a
trusted
not-for-profit.
The
not-for-profit
can later
relicense as
required. This
appears to be
the option
that Google
legal
explained to
Erin.</div>
<div>2.
Developers/Employers
own their
code, but
provide a
statement
saying they
confirm that
the
not-for-profit
can use under
license
provided. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Both
these options
require a
legal entity
(which we
haven't
sourced yet).
Both require a
system for
processing CLA
statements
(such as
accepting
signed
statements).
Both are a
pain to
manage.</div>
<div>For 1.
having the
ability to
relicense can
be both a
positive and
negative, more
likely a
negative as
you will need
to get a CLA
for any
library you
depend upon.</div>
<div>Being
able to
relicense is
important if
you want to
make the
license more
permissive (eg
from GPL to
MIT license).</div>
<div>By
selecting the
CC0 licence
(for
templates) we
are proposing
to be as
permissive as
possible, so
anyone can
relicense to
any other
license. So
the value of
relicensing is
not an issue
in that case.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>3. The
DCO is lighter
as usually
implemented is
lower
overhead. All
developers
need do is add
a "--signoff"
argument to a
git commit
message. This
effectively
acknowledges
that in the
commit you
agree to the
DCO statement.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>4. We
could go for a
lighter
version of
this, by
making a
statement in
our
CONTRIBUTOR.md
doc stating.
If you submit
a commit to
our
repository,
then we assume
that you are
abiding by our
DCO (which we
reference and
include on our
site). This
would be the
easiest
option, and
has the same
effort for
contributors
as 5.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>5. Do
nothing.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My
preference is
3 or 4. (I
haven't seen
an
implementation
of 4 yet and
would like to
confirm it is
a legitimate
option, but
there appears
to be plenty
of 5.)</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 at 09:06, Erin McKean <<a href="mailto:emckean@google.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">emckean@google.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">More
answers: fwiw,
turns out that
the strongest
argument for a
CLA (over a
DCO or
nothing) is
relicensing
rights:
<div><br>
</div>
<div>"Let's
say the
project has
code samples
under Apache,
and</div>
documentation
under CC 4
(common
licensing
scheme). If
they accept a<br>
patch to the
docs under
DCO, that
patch is CC4
forever, and
they don't<br>
have the right
to put it in
the Apache
code section!
And
vice-versa;<br>
they'd have to
ask each
contribution
author every
single time.<br>
<br>
With CLA you
have relicense
rights."
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Also it
turns out they
will review a
CLA (and
fairly
quickly) from
projects not
already on the
approved list.
:) </div>
<div><br>
Erin</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 3:54 PM Erin McKean <<a href="mailto:emckean@google.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">emckean@google.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">I
heard back
that given a
choice between
CLA/DCO, they
strongly
suggest an
Apache-style
CLA.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Am now
asking about
the choice
between CLA
and nothing.
;) </div>
<div><br>
Thanks!</div>
<div><br>
Erin</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 3:36 PM Jennifer Rondeau <<a href="mailto:jennifer.rondeau@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">jennifer.rondeau@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">More
reasons not to
require a CLA.
Google
undoubtedly
not the only
employer with
this kind of
limitation.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Note that
although I
said I'd
support a DCO,
my strong
recommendation
is against
neither CLA
nor DCO.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 6:18 PM Erin McKean <<a href="mailto:emckean@google.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">emckean@google.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">From
the "big
company" POV,
I'm not
allowed to
sign a CLA
that isn't on
a (SHORT)
approved list
of CLAs. So it
would likely
be a barrier
for a
new/small
project to get
on that list.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am
asking about
DCOs, will
report back!</div>
<div><br>
Erin </div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:33 PM Jennifer Rondeau <<a href="mailto:jennifer.rondeau@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">jennifer.rondeau@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">A
CLA involves
signing and in
the case of
the CLAs I've
needed to sign
review by the
governing
board before
you're good to
go. Typically
automated, but
a multi-step
process and
more
complicated if
you need to
sign an
org-based CLA
(as opposed to
a CLA for an
individual).
<div><br>
</div>
<div>A DCO is
integrated
with Git
(GitHub and I
assume other
Git servers),
so you provide
a `--signoff`
argument to
your git
commits. Or
add it to your
git alias.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Either
way it's an
extra step of
some sort, not
implicit.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 5:18 PM Jared Morgan <<a href="mailto:jaredleonmorgan@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">jaredleonmorgan@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto">With
these
agreements,
does anyone
have to
actually sign
and return the
agreement? Or
do they take
the form of
"submitting
your change is
like signing
the
agreement"?
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I'm
just following
along with
this thread
for now
because (as
you can
probably tell)
I have never
heard of this
before in open
source
projects.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon., 29 Jul. 2019, 07:21 Jennifer Rondeau, <<a href="mailto:jennifer.rondeau@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">jennifer.rondeau@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">It's
been my
experience
working with
the Kubernetes
community that
a CLA can pose
a
non-insignificant
barrier to
entry for new
contributors,
especially if
they aren't
already
familiar with
FOSS. And it's
my observation
from working
with a range
of Write the
Docs
communities
that technical
writers tend
to be less
familiar with
FOSS norms and
practices than
coders -- this
includes
writers from
large
companies.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If we
want to
maintain a
project that's
an open and
welcoming for
all as
possible, I'd
support a DCO,
but I also
wonder whether
we need or
want even that
much. My guess
is that it
would be
enough to
drive away at
least some
otherwise
valuable
contributors.
I don't have
data about how
many potential
contributors
lack of a DCO
would keep
away -- anyone
else?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Related
but not quite
on topic: how
do we want to
solicit and
encourage
contributions?
Are we
assuming only
contributors
who are
already
familiar with
a Git
workflow? That
would
definitely
keep some good
work away,
based on my
experience
with writing
day sessions
for the Write
the Docs guide
at WtD
conferences.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 2:25 PM Jo Cook <<a href="mailto:jo.k.cook@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">jo.k.cook@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Personally
I'm fine with
the light
tough DCO but
happy to go
with whatever
works for
people
contributing
from large
companies.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>All the
best</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Jo<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 1:15 PM Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">It
has been ~ 10
years since I
last looked
into open
source
contributor <br>
agreements, so
I've been
doing some
research. I
feel this is
an <br>
important
consideration
for a project
which is
hopefully to
be as <br>
central as
ours will
become.<br>
<br>
It is about
having
contributors
confirm they
are allowed to
give to our <br>
project and to
agree we can
distribute
contributions
under our open
<br>
licenses.<br>
We have a few
options: do
nothing, old
heavy weight
Contributor
License <br>
Agreement
(CLA), or
lightweight
Developer
Certificate of
Origin (DCO)<br>
Pros and cons
are explained
in Producing
Open Source
Software: <br>
<a href="https://producingoss.com/en/contributor-agreements.html#developer-certificate-of-origin" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://producingoss.com/en/contributor-agreements.html#developer-certificate-of-origin</a><br>
I propose we
adopt the
light DCO: <a href="https://developercertificate.org/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer
noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank">https://developercertificate.org/</a><br>
<br>
I'd like to
hear if anyone
has any
opinions or
experience in
this area <br>
(especially
from those of
you in big
companies
which have
legal <br>
departments
which may be
opinionated.)<br>
<br>
After we've
discussed for
a few days
(weeks if
being
debated), I'll
put <br>
together a
motion to vote
on.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Cameron
Shorter<br>
Technology
Demystifier<br>
Open
Technologies
and Geospatial
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